# Navy ship stuck in ice in Montreal **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 22, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253 "2018-01-22T22:49:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/21 "2018-01-23T16:16:08Z")
> [@lazybratsche](#): > > (I have a vague recollection of a picture of a damaged modern warship, where melting of the structure is readily apparent. But either my memory or my google-fu is failing me this morning…) I had believed aluminum to be a problem in the Falklands War, but [apparently not.](http://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/10/world/falkland-aftermath-a-naval-debate.html) ---
**Author:** ![KCB615](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea666f/32.png) [@KCB615](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KCB615)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/22 "2018-01-23T22:33:07Z")
> [@lazybratsche](#): > > (I have a vague recollection of a picture of a damaged modern warship, where melting of the structure is readily apparent. But either my memory or my google-fu is failing me this morning…) I think you’re remembering the USS Stark, a guided missile frigate hit by an Exocet missile un 1987. [Obligatory photo.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/USS_Stark_-_external_damage_by_exocet.jpg/1280px-USS_Stark_-_external_damage_by_exocet.jpg) The Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates were infamous for having aluminum superstructures. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/23 "2018-01-23T22:52:53Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Seriously, if you had to be stuck somewhere you could do a lot worse than Montreal. Yes, the artwork on the metro is exquisite! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/24 "2018-01-23T22:56:48Z")
Where’s **matt**? He could give them a tour! ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/25 "2018-01-24T01:14:12Z")
So much for global warming. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/26 "2018-01-24T01:26:29Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Today. Ottawa just finished with snow yesterday with freezing rain overnight and into the morning. I woke to thunder and lightning in a snow storm - it was like living in Kingston again. Ah yes. Kingston. Where a Queen’s leather jacket, an umbrella, and a wool sweater were not enough to keep one dry walking home five blocks in the rain. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/27 "2018-01-24T01:29:21Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > So much for global warming. When some areas become warm, like the arctic, other places become cold. It is now called “climate change” so that the concept is easier to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/28 "2018-01-24T02:52:07Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > When some areas become warm, like the arctic, other places become cold. It is now called “climate change” so that the concept is easier to understand. I know. I was being a shit. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/29 "2018-01-24T04:15:43Z")
Plus, you’re assuming this weather is colder than usual in Montréal. How do you know it’s not actually above the average temperature? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/30 "2018-01-24T04:18:05Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Plus, you’re assuming this weather is colder than usual in Montréal. How do you know it’s not actually above the average temperature? 😉 You mean your breath usually falls to the ground? ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/31 "2018-01-24T17:13:05Z")
I know one of the engineers who worked on this ship. I told him I blamed him for the delays. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/32 "2018-01-24T17:55:54Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Ah yes. Kingston. Where a Queen’s leather jacket, an umbrella, and a wool sweater were not enough to keep one dry walking home five blocks in the rain. Perhaps I should point out, for the benefit of those from distant places, that “a Queen’s leather jacket” most likely refers to a college jacket from Queen’s University, which is in Kingston, and not a leather jacket borrowed from Her Majesty, which probably wouldn’t fit anyway, nor is it a reference to some monarchistic affectation. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/33 "2018-01-24T18:02:58Z")
> [@lazybratsche](#): > > (I have a vague recollection of a picture of a damaged modern warship, where melting of the structure is readily apparent. But either my memory or my google-fu is failing me this morning…) USS _Belknap_ collided with the aircraft carrier _John F. Kennedy_ in 1975; _Belknap_’s entire (aluminum) superstructure [was pretty much completely destroyed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USS_Belknap_collision_damage.jpg) in the ensuing fire. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/34 "2018-01-24T18:51:13Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Plus, you’re assuming this weather is colder than usual in Montréal. How do you know it’s not actually above the average temperature? 😉 Aside from a two-week stretch around Xmas and New Year’s, I believe it has been warmer than normal this winter. It’s why we keep getting freezing rain instead of good old blizzards. Overall we are having far more freeze-thaw cycles, and it completely sucks, especially since it’s too mild for outdoor rinks to stay frozen. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/35 "2018-04-01T05:23:42Z")
She’s free! > **[U.S. warship stuck in Montreal since December due to ice resumes trip home](https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/u-s-warship-stuck-in-montreal-since-december-due-to-ice-resumes-trip-home-1.3866298)** > > An American warship stuck in Montreal since Christmas Eve has finally resumed its trip to its home port in Florida, the U.S. Navy confirmed on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/36 "2018-04-01T13:16:55Z")
the locals were not fans of the noise it was making in port [Canadians politely ask US Navy's noisy new warship stuck in ice to move away - mlive.com](http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2018/03/uss_little_rock_in_canada.html) ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253/37 "2018-04-04T03:39:09Z")
Let’s face it. It was there to protect the Northern border of the US against the Canadian threat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/navy-ship-stuck-in-ice-in-montreal/807253.md?page=1)