# Naxos Is From An Alternate Universe

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704 "2011-05-29T22:16:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/81 "2011-05-30T06:38:42Z")

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Yeah! Just wanted to say I’m right on board with you, **Noxas**. Good riddance to the lot of it. Also, why is it called religion? Most people only do it once!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/82 "2011-05-30T06:56:19Z")

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I’ve no idea who Naxos is, but the OP of this thread is indeed an immature asshole and I’m glad for the opportunity to say so in such a matter-of-fact manner because the observation is well and truly deserved and needs no fanfare or embellishment.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/83 "2011-05-30T10:06:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> However, there have been people on this board who have posted that they are certain that atheism is true and would remain certain they were right even if presented with objective evidence that a religious belief was true.

Really? Cite!

There’ve been plenty of people saying they wouldn’t worship god even if there was evidence for his existence, but that’s not the same thing.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/84 "2011-05-30T10:11:37Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> the OP of this thread is indeed an immature asshole

Well, yes, but that’s because he’s a teenage boy. They’re \*all \*obnoxious assholes. I know. I was one.

I shudder to think how much more obnoxious I’d have been if I had a Dope to post to:D

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/85 "2011-05-30T10:14:45Z")

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I and others have said that we can’t imagine anything that would qualify as objective evidence of God. For one thing, the standard version of God is both logically contradictory (and thus outright impossible) thanks to all those omnis, but runs right into the Problem of Evil. And as well, how could we possibly distinguish between God and something equally powerful that isn’t God? How can we distinguish between God and far lesser beings that are good enough to fool us, for that matter?

“God” is such an extreme claim that I can’t imagine evidence good enough for it. With all those “omnis” and all the other bizarre claims made of it it’s pretty much the most extreme claim possible. There’s always going to be a more plausible answer than “God” to explain any imaginable evidence.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/86 "2011-05-30T10:16:43Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I’ve no idea who Naxos is, but the OP of this thread is indeed an immature asshole and I’m glad for the opportunity to say so in such a matter-of-fact manner because the observation is well and truly deserved and needs no fanfare or embellishment.

Now I have heard the words of truth, well and truly spoken.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/87 "2011-05-30T11:11:06Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> 1. Der Trihs is way more entertaining than Naxos.
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> 2. Way way way _way_ more entertaining.

God, yes!

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> 1. Naxos: FYI: this is a pretty run of the mill pit thread. Several pages of slinging insults.

And so far the only one frothing is Naxos, the rest have been ridiculously polite.

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> 1. Naxos: You have not substantiated your claim that religion is a mental disease. All you’ve really done is call it a name. I trust there’s an argument to be made for that, but you haven’t made it.
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> 2. Given that the vast majority of humanity throughout history has practiced some religion, calling it a disease is rather silly. You might call it a “Cancer on humanity”, but that’s just empty name-calling as well.

That line about “the opium of the people” is hard to beat, though.

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> 1. I dunno how the cost/benefit of Christianity works out: AFAIK, we’ve never had a successful thread on that topic.

Someone go open it, but it probably won’t stay as polite as this Pitting.

What I’m wondering is: is Naxos single-quoting because he wants to count-pad or because he can’t figure out that there is a multiquote button and/or get off his high horse long enough to search for information on it or ask?

Just FYI and in case it’s the second, if you want to respond to several posts, click on the ["+] button at the bottom right of a post, then click the same button on any other posts you want to respond to, use the quote button for the last one in the group.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/88 "2011-05-30T11:41:04Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Is not!

Is too!

(Not because I personally hold the position, but I’m willing to advocate it in order to further the interesting debate.)

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/89 "2011-05-30T12:19:06Z")

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It’s so easy to win a debate when you can just repeatedly declare that everyone who disagrees with you is objectively stupid.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/90 "2011-05-30T12:20:44Z")

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**Cutis** and **Naxos** seem to be two sides of the same coin to me.

Both are ‘true believers’, just in inverse crap is all. Clearly both have drunk the respective Koolaid.

And both, are completely predictable, which makes them both a couple of yawners, as far as I’m concerned.

Come back when you can think outside your delusions, k?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/91 "2011-05-30T12:37:23Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> It’s so easy to win a debate when you can just repeatedly declare that everyone who disagrees with you is objectively stupid.

That’s just stupid.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/92 "2011-05-30T16:03:44Z")

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Naxos has not proven religion is a disease. Nor has the OP proven that Naxos is actually from an

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/93 "2011-05-30T16:12:31Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Such insane, delusional, ignorant, bigoted statements come often from Naxos

I’ll send you the bill for my screen. It was a very nice screen until that spit-take.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/94 "2011-05-31T03:26:02Z")

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> [@Naxos](#):
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> I don’t know who that Der Trihs is, that you keep on bringing up.
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> There’s no hope of … That’s why religion is a mental disorder.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> “God” is such an extreme claim that I can’t imagine evidence good enough for it. With all those “omnis” and all the other bizarre claims made of it it’s pretty much the most extreme claim possible. There’s always going to be a more plausible answer than “God” to explain any imaginable evidence.

Naxos, meet Der. Der, meet Naxos.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/95 "2011-05-31T03:50:22Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Naxos, meet Der. Der, meet Naxos.

Careful, you fool! They’ll merge into the unholy binary demon… Trixonosis!

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/96 "2011-05-31T03:59:42Z")

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I’d be more worried about them crossing the streams…

-XT

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/97 "2011-05-31T04:03:00Z")

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I’m sorry to barge in, is this where the _Fundamentalist Atheist_ meeting is?

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/98 "2011-05-31T04:13:57Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Careful, you fool! They’ll merge into the unholy binary demon… Trixonosis!

The undercooked pork disease\*?!!! My God\*\*, man, the danger is worse than I thought. I’d rather fight off the zombie apocalypse\*\*\* than give up my saute’d apple pork chops\*\*\*\*!

\*I know it’s spelled with a “ch”, but they’re worms. Worms can’t spell.  
\*\*Am I still allowed to say “God”, here? It’s not worse than “cat declawing” is it?  
\*\*\*OK, so the dead didn’t rise from the grave last week, but the rapture is coming!  
\*\*\*\* If you want the recipe, PM me. Hint: the secret is apples

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/99 "2011-05-31T04:18:01Z")

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As annoying as naxos may be, I’m having a real hard time mustering up any sympathy for the poor christians having to face his onslaught of attacks.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/naxos-is-from-an-alternate-universe/583704/100 "2011-05-31T04:34:00Z")

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> [@Naxos](#):
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> Second of all, I hesitate to name drop in online forums. So, take my arguments as I present them and either accept or refute them with your own abilities to reason.

> [@Naxos](#):
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> Rest assured. I have the credentials. 🙂

> [@Naxos](#):
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> Sorry. I was carried away. Treat what I say as arguments from an average person.

_Yawn_ I’ll bite, who is it that you are going to claim to be or know?

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