# Nazi judge forces communism on small business

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 14, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074 "2010-04-14T16:34:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/1 "2010-04-14T16:34:46Z")

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This guy takes the cake. He wants to [shut down this Culver City business](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/04/judges-bars-venice-dispensary-from-selling-medical-marijuana.html) because they’re making a profit and don’t live up to his 60s Utopian dream:  
[QUOTE=L.A. County Superior Court judge James C. Chalfant]  
“Maybe I am too old, but those of us who grew up in the 1960s know what a collective is,”  
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Whatever, Mr. Hippie Gestapo. You and health care reform. It’s Big Government like you that’s gonna make the Democrats fall this November.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/2 "2010-04-14T16:37:38Z")

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We cringe.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/3 "2010-04-14T16:40:46Z")

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Wow. A remarkably accurate summation of the article, coherently addressing all the points involved. You could work as a journalist. Really.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/4 "2010-04-14T16:41:27Z")

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Are _you_ high?

ETA: that was addressed to the OP.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/5 "2010-04-14T16:42:26Z")

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IMHO, which when it comes to matters legal is basically worthless, seems like the judge is properly enforcing the rules as they are laid out in the legislation.

If you want the store fronts to operate like a normal business, then work to push through a revision to the way the law is written.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/6 "2010-04-14T16:43:20Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> This guy takes the cake. He wants to [shut down this Culver City business](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/04/judges-bars-venice-dispensary-from-selling-medical-marijuana.html) because they’re making a profit and don’t live up to his 60s Utopian dream:Whatever, Mr. Hippie Gestapo. You and health care reform. It’s Big Government like you that’s gonna make the Democrats fall this November.

Umm…he thinks that the law says they’re only allowed to grow and share the weed as a collective. But instead they’re selling it.

How is this any different from anything else that allows for “home use” of something that becomes illegal if you distribute it?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/7 "2010-04-14T16:47:56Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Are _you_ high?

?No. I’m just one of those high school students Trutanich recruited, working on my civics homework.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/8 "2010-04-14T16:48:20Z")

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It is my current belief that no one in the pit makes any sense atall.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/9 "2010-04-14T16:49:23Z")

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Judge wants to shut down pot shop? You’re right, it’s like the Shoah meets the Killing Fields in one of Stalin’s gulags!

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/10 "2010-04-14T16:50:25Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It is my current belief that no one in the pit makes any sense atall.

Oh yeah? Well, my turtle squeals green cauliflower!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/11 "2010-04-14T16:50:54Z")

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Jesus H. Christ.

Look, i think that California’s restrictions on the growing and distribution of medical marijuana should be relaxed, and i think that some of the attempts to shut down these places rest on an excessively stringent reading of the law itself.

But the fact is that, like it or not, California’s law regarding medical marijuana growth and distribution _requires_ that the dispensaries operate as non-profit entities, and that they need to be organized as collectives or cooperatives.

Here’s what [CA NORML](http://www.canorml.org/prop/collectivetips.html) has to say about the issue:

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> The law explicitly allows distribution of medical marijuana through non-profit “collectives” or “cooperatives.” This is the way storefront dispensaries should be organized. While some dispensaries are currently organized otherwise, as sole proprietorships, partnerships, or for-profit businesses, such arrangements are not advisable, since they are not permitted under SB 420 or the Attorney General’s guidelines.

As that website notes, some jurisdictions are stricter than others in their interpretations of the state laws, and in fact there are disagreements among different District Attorneys and other legal authorities over exactly what the laws do and do not allow, but to summarize this incident as just some judge wanting to prevent a free market business from living the American dream is asinine.

Personally, i think marijuana should be legal, period. And even if that doesn’t happen, i think that California should relax the restrictions on medical marijuana dispenaries. We have one operating just down the street from our place, and it causes absolutely no trouble in the neighborhood.

But the problem described in the OP’s article is a result of state laws that are vaguely written, as well as local authorities that don’t like the idea of marijuana dispensaries, and are doing whatever they can to shut them down.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/12 "2010-04-14T16:51:02Z")

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OP is upset  
Judge hates the marijuana  
Its, like, so unfair.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/13 "2010-04-14T16:54:53Z")

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Why would a Nazi judge force _communism_ on anybody?

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/14 "2010-04-14T16:55:29Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> OP is upset  
> Judge hates the marijuana  
> Its, like, so unfair.

If you can do this in a sestina, I’d be impressed.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/15 "2010-04-14T16:56:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Why would a Nazi judge force communism on anybody?

So he can shoot them for being communists! Das duh!

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/16 "2010-04-14T16:58:58Z")

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Those pesky Nazi’s and their love of communism. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/17 "2010-04-14T17:00:00Z")

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Danm, knew I should have hit submit before taking a hit from that bong.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/18 "2010-04-14T17:01:35Z")

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> [@Nancarrow](#):
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> Why would a Nazi judge force _communism_ on anybody?

Because he likes the sound the Stukas make when they whoosh the commies.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/19 "2010-04-14T17:02:56Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Wow. A remarkably accurate summation of the article, coherently addressing all the points involved. You could work as a journalist. Really.

Apart from the words “Nazi” and “communism”. I’d substitute “Los Angeles” and “collectivism” for those two emotionally laden words, if I were a sub-editor.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-judge-forces-communism-on-small-business/536074/20 "2010-04-14T17:07:44Z")

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> [@Nancarrow](#):
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> Why would a Nazi judge force _communism_ on anybody?

And why would a _hippie_ judge be against marijuana?

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