# Nazi/Krups UL surfaces again...NYTimes **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [April 30, 2001, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851 "2001-04-30T14:36:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2001, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851/1 "2001-04-30T14:36:08Z")
Here’s the article: > **[History Collides With Contrition as Jewish Group Honors a German (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/30/nyregion/history-collides-with-contrition-as-jewish-group-honors-a-german.html)** > > Article discusses controversy over UJA-Federation honoring Thomas Middelhoff, chief executive of Bertelsmann, German media conglomerate that published Nazi propaganda for Hitler's army; photo (M) > [@](#): > > “But many American Jews, especially the children of Holocaust survivors, still carry a deep anger toward German companies that profited from the war: they would not dream of buying a Krups coffee grinder or a BMW.” True, they’re just reporting on the behavior of (misguided) individuals, but they never bother to note that Krups didn’t particularly profit from the war (at least, no more/differently than they did before and after the war). I’m mailing a link to Cecil’s article to the NYT staff. [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5\_078.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_078.html) (“Did Krups, Braun, and Mercedes-Benz make Nazi concentration camp ovens? Did Hitler name the Volkswagen?”) ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2001, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851/2 "2001-05-02T15:33:46Z")
So toadspittle, did you ever hear from the NY Times? Are they going to print a correction, giving credit to you and Cecil? ---
**Author:** ![Swede\_Hollow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Swede\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swede_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851/3 "2001-05-11T23:50:18Z")
There may also be some confusion about which company they are mad at. Krups is a small appliance maker (I think they got started by making scales), Krupps is an arms manufacturer that created many weapons including the famous ‘88’ anti-aircraft gun during WWII. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2001, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851/4 "2001-05-12T01:50:12Z")
Agreed, Swede Hollow. In fact Cecil mentioned this himself in his article: > [@](#): > > Krups is probably being confused with the Krupp works, for many years the leading German munitions maker. … Krupp didn’t make crematoria either, but it did use 100,000 slave laborers to make weapons at Auschwitz and other death camps. Boss Alfried Krupp was sentenced to 12 years for war crimes but was freed in 1951–cynics say because the Korean War had just broken out and the U.S. needed Krupp’s industrial might as a bulwark against the Reds. Its assets restored, Krupp again became a corporate giant and remains so today. ---
**Author:** ![Beruang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@Beruang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beruang)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2001, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851/5 "2001-05-12T02:09:12Z")
Speaking of putting “the funky Beetle of one’s youth in a new light,” didn’t one of their US ad campaigns say “from the people who brought you World War II…”? Or am I thinking of a Japanese car? – Beruang ---
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2001, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-krups-ul-surfaces-again-nytimes/63851/6 "2001-05-15T13:41:06Z")
Just FYI–I sent the letter in. No response/correction. Oh well. Too bad for the Germans, I guess.