# Nazi Nuke Thread Nuked?

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**Created:** [May 15, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410 "2025-05-15T15:44:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/1 "2025-05-15T15:44:41Z")

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A few days ago somebody started an FQ thread titled close to “Did Nazi Germany Have Nukes?” IIRC the OP was a regular poster whose name many of us would recognize. I do not recall who it was, only that the name seemed familiar to me.

We got about 60 posts in with good discussion, cites, and everything. Of course the concensus was “No, they did not; not even close.”

Yesterday / last night a newbie crank showed up to school us all on the “truth”: the Nazis had many nukes and even many test detonations to their credit.

I, and probably many others, reported the increasingly heated crankery.

A mod (either @Aspenglow or @What_Exit) locked the thread last night to stop the trainwreck pending further action by an FQ mod.

Now, 18 hours later, I find the entire thread seemingly cornfielded.

  

If it’s a reasonable request, can the _ **Moderati** _ fill us in on what was wrong with the thread _before_ the crank showed up that caused it to be cornfielded, not just locked, or only the crank posts cornfielded? Or is the thread cornfielding just temporary until the crankectomy is completed?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/2 "2025-05-15T15:47:52Z")

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Yeah, it had been a good discussion thread without that poster’s conspiracy theories. Should have been kept open.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/3 "2025-05-15T15:50:52Z")

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Things are being discussed by the Mods on that thread. It is cornfielded for now.

The Nazi fan troll is banned though, so if the thread in restored it will be without his posts. As he shat out 17 posts in that thread and many replies it will be somewhat tricky to restore.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/4 "2025-05-15T15:51:57Z")

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I thought the OP was new - I could be wrong

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/5 "2025-05-15T15:53:01Z")

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Thanks for the update.

Would be funny (as in funny-queer, not funny-hah-hah) if the OP was the crank using the same userID. Ask a seemingly reasonable question, let the discussion pick up speed in a unanimous direction, then drop the nuclear GOTCHA bomb on the assembled target population.

Or worse yet, the OP and the crank are the same person with two userids.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/6 "2025-05-15T15:53:59Z")

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We’ve had [this discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-is-there-a-bottom-line-to-all-these-sovereign-citizen-cases-thread-closed/950973) before.

Even upon rereading that thread, I’m not sure if it was because, “OMG! Sock participated! Doesn’t matter how good the discussion is. Nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.” or “It was an oopsie doopsie / software error and not worth the effort to fix it.”

If it really was the former four years ago, that might be the answer to your question.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/7 "2025-05-15T16:00:31Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> I thought the OP was new

The OP was certainly new. I remember looking up their account because I was unfamiliar with them.

I can’t remember how new, but fairly new.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/8 "2025-05-15T16:01:58Z")

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Ref posts just above, it seems I was mistaken about the OP’s history/age around here. Oops.

I’m _not_ lobbying for any particular outcome here, but in this one narrow case the thread was 100% on the rails until the crank showed up. Then there were crank posts, and direct responses to crank posts, then the mod thread lock. Once the crank showed up there wasn’t any ongoing natural thread progress.

Which gives us a very clean case here.

Simply truncating the thread just above the first crank post and reopening would be a low-ish effort response and the few legit posters whose crank responses disappear won’t have lost much.

OTOH, if the OP was just a set-up for the sock-crank attack, a 100% cornfield is probably the best move consistent with standing policy. It’s not like we haven’t discussed the actual history of the Nazi nuclear efforts umpteen times before.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/9 "2025-05-15T16:04:12Z")

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In any case, the question was convincingly answered, so do you really need the thread to linger open? Deleting it completely may be too much when you can simply edit it and leave it read-only.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/10 "2025-05-15T16:07:14Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Or worse yet, the OP and the crank are the same person with two userids.

Not to be all 20/20 hindsight “I knew it all along!” because I still don’t, but I thought the OP question had a _whiff_ of troll-bait about it. It did generate some interesting discussion though (my single contribution aside).

That would be some intermediate-level trolling to act as both OP and trocking contributor, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it hasn’t happened before. Anybody hear of any known or suspected instances where it has?

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**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/11 "2025-05-15T16:16:34Z")

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That person was quoting Nazi scientists from the Nurenbgh. trials and had read all this material, citing people, saying the nazis were at least 2 generations beyond the allies in nuke development. Was downplaying other cites about jewish scientists. When discussing remnant radioactive testing evidence, they diverted, and started saying things like “the layman wont understand” etc.  
Suspicious, I agree.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/12 "2025-05-15T16:20:06Z")

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They were banned, please don’t talk about them any more.

[The thread has been trimmed](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-nazi-germany-have-nuclear-weapons/1018354) and is about to return.

I also moved it to #In My Humble Opinion for now at least. It started in #Factual Questions.

I had cornfielded it, not long after @ParallelLines closed it as the troll was running amuck. There is still an ongoing discussion about this thread so more may be to come.

Note: Trimming was 17 troll posts and 15 replies.

 

Off-Topic note: Oh cool, a new feature for the Staff. Our Staff Notes now automatically say who added them. Very nice.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/15 "2025-05-15T21:35:11Z")

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As OP of this thread I’d like to say a big THANK YOU to the _ **Moderati** _ for reopening the topic thread in such a clean condition.

It’s almost like that train wreck never even happened.

Bravo for a tough job well done!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/16 "2025-05-15T22:00:49Z")

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A lot of people complain about judgment calls by the mods, and bemoan the relative lack of brightline rules. Nuking a thread started by a spammer, troll or sock seems to be one rule that’s pretty much brightline for all mods, along with a few instabans.

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**Author:** ![Dirtymartini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Dirtymartini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dirtymartini)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/17 "2025-05-16T07:44:14Z")

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I was wondering where my thread went, until I read all emails I got as the OP.

It has taken a life of its own, which I have found interesting. My knowledge of the subject was limited to seeing the Oppenheimer movie. And yes I saw Barbie too.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/18 "2025-05-16T20:13:11Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> A lot of people complain about judgment calls by the mods, and bemoan the relative lack of brightline rules. Nuking a thread started by a spammer, troll or sock seems to be one rule that’s pretty much brightline for all mods, along with a few instabans.

Most of those judgement calls are good, and I have no issues with that thread. It was asked and answered.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/19 "2025-05-17T09:43:46Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> the troll was running amuck

Point of order, in the traditional SD manner…

The word is spelled “amok”, it comes from the Javanese word for “crazy”, similar in meaning to the Nordic “beserk”.

Apologies for this pedantic interruption.

(Though “muck” was being spread)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/20 "2025-05-17T09:49:01Z")

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Amuck was used as in the classic cartoon Duck Amuck.

Additionally, while less acceptable, amuck is the acceptable alternative. The spelling was on purpose.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/21 "2025-05-17T09:53:39Z")

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Fair enough, it was appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nazi-nuke-thread-nuked/1018410/22 "2025-05-17T13:49:53Z")

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Thank you. That thread has some good educational content.

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