# NBA 2023/24 Season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** basketball-nba\
**Created:** [October 25, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093 "2023-10-25T17:53:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/61 "2023-12-10T14:47:34Z")

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Alas, it looks like the Lakers take the inaugural in season Tournament trophy.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/62 "2023-12-10T23:03:14Z")

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Oh, well. I’m still proud of my boys!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/63 "2023-12-11T20:50:51Z")

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Damn, Edwards re-injured his hip. Well, the Wolves have the attitude of “next man up” rather than moaning because someone is out. Looks like McCollum and Zion are both back in the game, so this may not be a walk in the park.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/64 "2023-12-13T15:38:14Z")

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Draymond Green’s monthly reminder to everyone that’s he’s a fucking asshole.

> **[Draymond Green ejection: Warriors star tossed for hitting Suns' Jusuf Nurkic,...](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/draymond-green-ejection-warriors-star-tossed-for-hitting-suns-jusuf-nurkic-who-says-green-needs-help/)**
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> Green spun and clocked Nurkic in the head as the two battled for position; he said it was not intentional

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/65 "2023-12-13T16:08:26Z")

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Hope they come down even harder on him this time.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/66 "2023-12-13T16:23:21Z")

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What a jackass. I’ve been watching Nurk play since he first came to the Blazers from Denver. The man doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body, but he plays a tough defense. Green either needs to man up and play the game or get the hell out.

Wolves lost to NOLA. McCollum’s return made a difference and they looked like a completely different team. If Williams ever decides to get into decent shape, they could go places.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/67 "2023-12-14T03:10:21Z")

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Green suspended “indefinitely”:

> **[Warriors' Green suspended 'indefinitely' by NBA](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39108236/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-suspended-indefinitely-nba)**
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> Warriors forward Draymond Green has been suspended indefinitely by the NBA for striking Suns center Jusuf Nurkić in the face. He will be required to meet 'certain league and team conditions' before he returns to play.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/68 "2023-12-14T15:21:57Z")

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Good. I doubt it will be all that long overall, but at least its something. I’ll be surprised if it goes much higher than 10 games.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/69 "2023-12-14T23:21:52Z")

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Yes, they should be able to accomplish a drastic personality makeover by early January, tops.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/70 "2023-12-14T23:53:59Z")

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I assume they just wanted the suspension to be immediate which is why they went with an indefinite timeline so they can discuss the actual length without him on the court.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/71 "2023-12-17T16:10:04Z")

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I was going to make a separate thread, but I’ll just post here.

What the heck is going on with the Pistons? I may have been mistaken, but I thought there was some level of optimism before the season. Not that they would be champions or main contenders, but a normal decent team. Turns out they are heading for the record of worst losing streaks in NBA history.

1. Was I wrong about the optimism? Is this level of losing not a huge surprise?
2. What is fundamentally wrong? Coaching, bad players, both?

I grew up with back-to-back champion Pistons and also enjoyed the 2003-2004 champion season as well.

This is embarrassing. I mean, I’ve grown used to the Lions\* being terrible, but the Pistons have had their moments.

\*except for this year and maybe one or two other years of my life

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/72 "2023-12-17T16:13:29Z")

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What it comes down to is they’ve been tanking for a few years and drafting badly with the results so they have nothing to show for it. There are several other teams that were tanking at the same time, namely OKC, Orlando and Houson who are all experiencing varying degrees of success and have a bright future ahead so there is really no excuse for Detroit being this bad. They simply do not have any player worth building around, but they have a lot of young inexperienced players who are not great but it is too early to give up on. This is the result of that.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/73 "2023-12-17T16:17:15Z")

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After a very close and hard-fought 1st half, the Wolves ended up beating the Pacers fairly handily. Typically, Anthony Edwards doesn’t hit his stride until the second half, which was the case last night, and Towns lit it up for 40 points.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/74 "2023-12-21T19:52:29Z")

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The Pistons are playing a Jazz team tonight in the second night of a back to back and currently missing eight players, if they don’t snap their 24 game losing streak tonight they might just never win again.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/75 "2023-12-22T01:46:48Z")

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Despite that, the Pistons are down by 3 late in the third quarter.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/76 "2023-12-22T14:21:16Z")

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Pistons at 25 straight losses, just one shy of the single season record. I hope Detroit gets the #1 draft pick next year. Detroit has had some bad lottery luck over the years, but even the one year we had a great pick we took Darko Milicic.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/77 "2023-12-22T17:08:10Z")

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They had the worst record last year and got the fifth pick, it makes very little difference anywhere in the bottom three. They also had the first pick in 2021, which got them Cade Cunningham, who was fairly highly regarded before coming into the league and had teams tanking to try to get him (that whole “fade for Cade” thing).

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/78 "2023-12-22T17:25:28Z")

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Cade’s put up good numbers, averaging 19 pts, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 steal a game over 3 seasons, and they’ve gone up every season. Cunningham is not the problem, it’s everyone else. Their draft picks since Cade haven’t really developed like they thought they would. Ivey had a decent rookie year, but his numbers this season are down almost all the way across the board. Sasser and Thompson are probably career bench warmers.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/79 "2023-12-22T17:29:20Z")

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Any semi decent player that is made the main offensive option on a team (or only option in this case) is going to put up good numbers, Cade’s scoring has been extremely inefficient. Philly was making Michael Carter Williams look like a future superstar during their tanking years by simply giving him the ball and letting him go hog wild.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-2023-24-season/992093/80 "2023-12-22T22:14:49Z")

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The Wolves managed to win over the Lakers by seven. They’re lucky LeBron was sitting it out. Turnovers are really hurting their stats. I’d be surprised to learn that Gobert is able to hold onto a fork when he eats, and he really has no business dribbling the ball. . .ever.

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