# NBA Offseason 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** basketball-nba\ **Created:** [June 19, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760 "2023-06-19T04:46:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/1 "2023-06-19T04:46:16Z")
The NBA offseason is upon us, after the Denver Nuggets won the 2023 NBA Championship. The San Antonio Spurs have the first pick in the draft, and are almost certain to take Victor Wembanyama, who seems to be a once-in-a-generation talent. The Phoenix Suns are finalizing a trade with the Washington Wizards for Bradley Beal, and will deal out Chris Paul in return. They may get a third team involved in order to trade Paul to a contender; I’ve heard a return to the LA Clippers might be in store for CP3. If not a trade, possibly a contract buyout for Paul. > **[Sources: Suns finalizing trade for Wizards' Beal](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37873714/sources-suns-finalizing-trade-wizards-bradley-beal)** > > The Suns are finalizing a trade with the Wizards to acquire All-Star guard Bradley Beal, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/2 "2023-06-19T04:54:45Z")
Lou Williams, who last played in April 2022 for the Hawks, has announced his retirement after a 17-year career. He’s a three-time former Sixth Man of the Year, and holds the NBA’s record for most points scored off the bench. > **[Longtime sixth man Williams retires from NBA](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37873057/lou-williams-three-sixth-man-year-retires-nba)** > > Lou Williams, who made his mark in the NBA coming off the bench while winning three Sixth Man of the Year awards, has announced his retirement. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/3 "2023-06-19T14:58:53Z")
The Wizards get basically nothing back for him, but at least he’s off the books. Not sure this really moves the needle all that much for Phoenix, though. Yeah, he’ll give you 20 points a night, but he’s average at best on defense and he’s constantly hurt. That contract is still an albatross. $50M+ a year for a 2nd or 3rd scoring option that’s basically guaranteed to be hurt 25% - 40% of the season, that’s bonkers. He wasn’t worth it when he was still regularly putting up 30 point games a few years back and he’s certainly not going to be worth it in 3-4 years on the tail end of that deal. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/4 "2023-06-19T21:19:59Z")
Yeah, ESPN+ gives the Suns a D on their part of the deal. It leaves them with a very top-heavy roster. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/5 "2023-06-19T21:22:08Z")
I saw where Ja Morant has been suspended for 25 games. I wonder if Memphis will dump him. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/6 "2023-06-19T23:11:12Z")
Zero chance. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/7 "2023-06-21T03:07:08Z")
Kyle Kuzma has declined his $13M player option with Washington and will become a free agent. It’s been suggested he might go to Houston or Indiana. > **[As expected, Kyle Kuzma declines $13 million player option, here are three...](https://nba.nbcsports.com/2023/06/20/as-expected-kyle-kuzma-declines-13-million-player-option-here-are-three-potential-landing-spots/)** > > Kyle Kuzma made the wise move opting out to test free agency, he will get a healthy pay raise. But what team will pay him, what is his landing spot? Draymond Green has declined his player option with Golden State. The Pacers are looking to trade the 7th pick for a high-value wing player. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/8 "2023-06-22T21:52:33Z")
Chris Paul to the Warriors for Jordan Poole and picks. > **[Report: Chris Paul Traded to Warriors; Wizards Get Jordan Poole, Draft Picks](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10078682-report-chris-paul-traded-to-warriors-wizards-get-jordan-poole-draft-picks)** > > The Golden State Warriors agreed on Thursday to acquire All-Star guard Chris Paul from the Washington Wizards in exchange for Jordan Poole and draft capital,… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/9 "2023-06-22T22:03:06Z")
I know they probably wouldn’t have done the trade with Phoenix, but that’s still gotta sting a little. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/10 "2023-06-23T00:44:08Z")
I don’t see an NBA draft thread, so I’ll post this here. I’m not much of an NBA follower, but I thought it interesting that the 4th and 5th picks in the draft were A. Thompson from the same program (Overtime Elite.) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/11 "2023-06-23T00:57:08Z")
Well they are twin brothers. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/12 "2023-06-23T01:13:49Z")
Wow. Going 4 and 5? That’s gotta be something that hasn’t happened before. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/13 "2023-06-23T01:17:47Z")
The Lopez brothers both went fairly high in the draft, but not back to back. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/14 "2023-06-23T01:59:57Z")
The Morris twins were also selected back to back in 2011, but not in the top 5. Still, it’s bizarre that it’s happened twice. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/15 "2023-06-23T10:18:49Z")
I think its weirder when they get drafted far apart, they are twins after all. Horace and Harvey Grant were identical twins and drafted in different years. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/16 "2023-06-23T15:29:48Z")
Wizards blow it all up, finally, and swing for the fences with Coulibaly. Maybe he’ll become Mini-Giannis, maybe he’ll play in the G-League a few years then vanish. He’s basically as much of a total unknown as there can be in the NBA draft. But it’s a direction at the very least, of which this team had no such thing a few months ago. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/17 "2023-06-30T13:46:27Z")
James Harden has opted in to his player option and will seek a trade from the Philadelphia 76ers. The Los Angeles Clippers have been mentioned as a potential trade partner. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/18 "2023-06-30T22:36:44Z")
Draymond Green has signed a four-year, $100 million contract extension to remain with the Golden State Warriors. The fourth year is a player option. > **[Sources: Green back with Dubs on $100M deal](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37940881/draymond-green-warriors-agree-4-year-100m-deal)** > > Draymond Green and the Golden State Warriors have agreed to a four-year, $100 million contract with a player option in the final season, sources told ESPN's Andscape. Bruce Brown, who played last year for the Nuggets, has agreed to a two-year, $45M deal with the Indiana Pacers. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/19 "2023-06-30T23:05:05Z")
Kyrie Irving returns to the Dallas Mavericks. 3 years, $126M. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760/20 "2023-07-01T01:16:05Z")
Fred VanVleet to the Houston Rockets. Three years, $130 million. > **[Fred VanVleet to sign three-year, $130 million contract with Rockets, per report](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/fred-vanvleet-to-sign-three-year-130-million-contract-with-rockets-per-report/)** > > VanVleet has spent his entire seven-year career with the Raptors [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-offseason-2023/985760.md?page=2)