# NBA Owner's Racism Exposed **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 26, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069 "2014-04-26T18:41:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/141 "2014-04-29T20:55:24Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Let me ask you something… because I personally agree with you that his comment was racist. > > If Sterling’s “girlfriend” was jewish, and he said, "look, I don’t want you to be seen with anyone but Jewish people. I don’t care what you do with anyone in private, but I wish you wouldn’t post Instagram pictures with all of these non-jewish people. I don’t like having to answer questions about it. > > Would you consider that to be racist? Do you think that’s a difficult question? The only issue is really whether Jewish is a race. Otherwise, hell yes. If it’s not racist it’s at least prejudiced or bigoted. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/142 "2014-04-29T20:57:04Z")
Sure would, **SFP**. Also does not seem like a trick question. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/143 "2014-04-29T20:59:08Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Let me ask you something… because I personally agree with you that his comment was racist. > > If Sterling’s “girlfriend” was jewish, and he said, "look, I don’t want you to be seen with anyone but Jewish people. I don’t care what you do with anyone in private, but I wish you wouldn’t post Instagram pictures with all of these non-jewish people. I don’t like having to answer questions about it. > > Would you consider that to be racist? > [@Acsenray](#): > > Do you think that’s a difficult question? The only issue is really whether Jewish is a race. Otherwise, hell yes. If it’s not racist it’s at least prejudiced or bigoted. Yep, colossally prejudiced. And I’d suggest that if the hypothetical situation is one where someone can be identified as Jewish solely from a photo, it’s racist too, since it’s presumably depending on physiognomy to classify people. Unless someone has an Instagram full of guys in kippot. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/144 "2014-04-29T21:02:09Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Banned for life? Jeez, doesn’t a guy get a chance to rehabilitate himself? I can see slapping him with a hefty fine, but banned for life from attending games? That seems ridiculous. (Although the guy is kind of old, so in absolute years it probably won’t be that long.) I think I’m being whooshed. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/145 "2014-04-29T21:20:18Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Do you think that’s a difficult question? The only issue is really whether Jewish is a race. Otherwise, hell yes. If it’s not racist it’s at least prejudiced or bigoted. > [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Sure would, **SFP**. Also does not seem like a trick question. > [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Yep, colossally prejudiced. And I’d suggest that if the hypothetical situation is one where someone can be identified as Jewish solely from a photo, it’s racist too, since it’s presumably depending on physiognomy to classify people. Unless someone has an Instagram full of guys in kippot. Not meant to be a trick question, and I agree with you all. I was just curious if you all see this issue the same way I do. The answer is yes. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/146 "2014-04-29T21:33:03Z")
I wish people like him were portrayed as prejudiced rather than racist. The word racist has a spectrum of meanings, and bigots will use that to wiggle out of responsibility for their actions. They say they’re not a racist because they have friends of that race or that they hire them or something like that. But they couldn’t wiggle out of being called prejudiced. They clearly have preconceived notions of what people of certain races or religions are like. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/147 "2014-04-29T21:36:15Z")
So you’ll willingly surrender the definition of “racism” to racists? ---
**Author:** ![chicagowhitesox1173](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@chicagowhitesox1173](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chicagowhitesox1173)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/148 "2014-04-29T21:44:57Z")
I don’t think he’s racist like these people are at this Stormfront site. I think there is a big difference between him and some member of Stormfront. So I do think he’s getting a bit of a raw deal here. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/149 "2014-04-29T21:50:45Z")
Do you think any other obviously wrong things? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/150 "2014-04-29T21:51:02Z")
A raw deal? I’m sorry but that’s preposterous. Social consequences for racism shouldn’t limited only to those who are as racist as Stormfront. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/151 "2014-04-29T21:53:46Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > So you’ll willingly surrender the definition of “racism” to racists? I feel the term is too widely used. It means everything from someone who commits hate crimes to someone who thinks certain races prefer certain foods. Bigots can’t seem to understand that they are acting in a racist manner. By using more specific terms, it’s harder for them to deny they are bigots. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/152 "2014-04-29T21:55:25Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Not meant to be a trick question, and I agree with you all. I was just curious if you all see this issue the same way I do. The answer is yes. Well, I’m convinced. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/153 "2014-04-29T21:56:45Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > I feel the term is too widely used. It means everything from someone who commits hate crimes to someone who thinks certain races prefer certain foods. Bigots can’t seem to understand that they are acting in a racist manner. By using more specific terms, it’s harder for them to deny they are bigots. Bigot is not a more specific term than racist. ---
**Author:** ![chicagowhitesox1173](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@chicagowhitesox1173](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chicagowhitesox1173)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/154 "2014-04-29T22:03:40Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > A raw deal? I’m sorry but that’s preposterous. Social consequences for racism shouldn’t limited only to those who are as racist as Stormfront. It’s a pretty well known fact that black NBA players treat white players like crap. How come we never hear about that? I think something as stupid as this is being turned into something bigger than what it should be. Spike Lee made some ridiculous comments today, I seriously doubt anyone will make a big deal about that. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/155 "2014-04-29T22:05:48Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Let’s get something clear. David Stern did not “give” Chris Paul to the Clippers, David Stern representing the NBA as acting owners of the New Orleans Hornets vetoed a horrible trade that would have sent Paul to the Lakers for a pile of hot garbage and also would have ended up with the Hornets taking on more salary. That was simply unacceptable and the same exact thing every single other owner in the NBA would have done. The Clippers got Paul by making a much more reasonable offer. Thank you. I mean - God forbid that anybody in the NBA ever ACTIVELY do something that isn’t in the best interest of the L.A. Lakers!! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/156 "2014-04-29T22:07:38Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > We’re just missing the full-fledged “liberals and blacks are the real racists.” Those are my favorites. > [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > It’s a pretty well known fact that black NBA players treat white players like crap. How come we never hear about that? I think something as stupid as this is being turned into something bigger than what it should be. Spike Lee made some ridiculous comments today, I seriously doubt anyone will make a big deal about that. With my prescience, you’d think I could win a lottery or something. But no. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/157 "2014-04-29T22:09:22Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I think I’m being whooshed. Not at all. We had a former "Exalted Cyclops: of the KKK in the Senate until recently, who once wrote: > [@](#): > > I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. He wasn’t “banned for life”, but maybe you think Byrd should have been…? Punishment is due, but now it’s like the guy is tainted for life. I think that’s an overreaction. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/158 "2014-04-29T22:10:16Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > It’s a pretty well known fact that black NBA players treat white players like crap. How come we never hear about that? How is it well known if we never hear about it? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/159 "2014-04-29T22:11:34Z")
Yeah, a few enormous housing discrimination settlements, some very public demands that his girlfriend stop associating with blacks, a history of bizarre race-related commentaries… let’s see where he’s going with this! ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069/160 "2014-04-29T22:12:12Z")
> [@chicagowhitesox1173](#): > > It’s a pretty well known fact that black NBA players treat white players like crap. How come we never hear about that? I think something as stupid as this is being turned into something bigger than what it should be. Spike Lee made some ridiculous comments today, I seriously doubt anyone will make a big deal about that. First, please cite that first claim about Black players treating White players badly? Second, what did Spike Lee say that you find ridiculous? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-owners-racism-exposed/687069.md?page=9)