# NBA Season 2015 - 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 30, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077 "2015-09-30T20:37:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/382 "2016-06-20T03:42:53Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> Did I imagine that or did the Warriors not score for the last 4 minutes?

4:30.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/383 "2016-06-20T03:52:46Z")

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My Twitter feed (I follow fellow Cleveland sports fans) and Facebook feed (almost all local to the Cleveland area) has pretty much all admitted that they are crying tonight. Some I’m quite surprised that they admitted it.

I’ve lived through the entirety of the plot of “Believeland.” That was my life. This is my life now. This is amazing.

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/384 "2016-06-20T03:55:07Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> LeBron James is the best player in basketball right now and conservatively one of the ten best players who ever lived. The only “defensive strategy” that works on him is “hope the other guys on his team don’t play well.”

Today was my last day watching the NBA. AFter all the BS that went on in this series I am officially done.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/385 "2016-06-20T04:00:07Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> Today was my last day watching the NBA. AFter all the BS that went on in this series I am officially done.

…OK?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/386 "2016-06-20T04:18:15Z")

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[LeBlock](https://streamable.com/kp39)

That was probably the game. An amazing block. LeBron was utterly exhausted and yet pulled that surge out of his ass, slapped it away about an inch before it hit the glass, and prevented GS from going up when neither team could score. Kyrie hit the dagger that put it away, but that block was probably the game. And it’s fitting.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/387 "2016-06-20T05:07:55Z")

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To add to how remarkable this is, apparently Golden State hasn’t lost 3 games in a row since November 2013.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/388 "2016-06-20T05:10:37Z")

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When Iguodala passes to Curry, who James is chasing down, James isn’t even at the mid court line. When Curry passes back James is outside the three-point line on the far side of the court. Nice photo [LeBron James saved the Cavaliers with a superhuman play that will go down as one of the greatest blocks in history](http://www.businessinsider.com.au/lebron-james-chasedown-block-saves-cavs-game-7-finals-2016-6?r=US&IR=T) here of the ball pinned to the glass.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/389 "2016-06-20T05:22:30Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> When Iguodala passes to Curry, who James is chasing down, James isn’t even at the mid court line. When Curry passes back James is outside the three-point line on the far side of the court. Nice photo [LeBron James saved the Cavaliers with a superhuman play that will go down as one of the greatest blocks in history](http://www.businessinsider.com.au/lebron-james-chasedown-block-saves-cavs-game-7-finals-2016-6?r=US&IR=T) here of the ball pinned to the glass.

The photo doesn’t really capture the fact that he had to leap over the shooter and his own teammate to get up there. Amazing.

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/390 "2016-06-20T05:29:11Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I get that people were ticked at ‘The Decision’ but as I said at the time, LeBron was a 27-year-old kid. He was guilty of putting himself in a bad situation, appearing to give his home town the finger. He wasn’t doing any of that; he was just excited to play with a winner alongside D-Wade and for Pat Riley. Even so, he had to earn it there and he was a gritty guy in those Miami years.
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> That he came back to Cleveland after his hometown fans and even his former owner trashed him says a LOT about the King. He has a short memory. He cares about his hometown. He is a competitor. He saw Cleveland as unfinished business and wanted to win a title for his town. In a town that stomached Ernest Byner, Jose Mesa, and tolerated Johnny Football’s bullshit, I can’t imagine that anyone can’t appreciate what James has done for this team and this city.

This might be one of the greatest storybook dramas in sports, ever. Even if you hate LeBron, for one night you have to tip your cap to him, or your just not human.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/391 "2016-06-20T06:04:26Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> Did I imagine that or did the Warriors not score for the last 4 minutes?

Yeah, it’s pretty amazing that a team that went 73-9 with the two guys who are 1-2-3-4 on most three pointers in a season couldn’t score at all in the last 4 minutes. But Klay has always been streaky; and I think Curry isn’t healthy despite what he’s been saying. But man, what a way to lose.

It’ll be really interesting to see how the Warriors approach building the team this year. My emotional response is that they should happily let Ezeli and Barnes go elsewhere and throw a bunch of money at Durant or someone like Whiteside. On the other hand, there’s the argument that this team just set the regular season record for wins, and came within a play or two of another championship despite being banged up, so it won’t surprise me if the Warriors leadership stays the course. I just can’t shake the feeling that going 15-9 in the playoffs after going 73-9 might point to the league figuring them out.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/392 "2016-06-20T06:18:43Z")

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Great win for LeBron and Cleveland. He’s been under a lot of pressure to get this done.

Golden State blew a 3-1 lead in the series. That’s going to sting for awhile.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/393 "2016-06-20T12:10:29Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> When Iguodala passes to Curry, who James is chasing down, James isn’t even at the mid court line. When Curry passes back James is outside the three-point line on the far side of the court. Nice photo [LeBron James saved the Cavaliers with a superhuman play that will go down as one of the greatest blocks in history](http://www.businessinsider.com.au/lebron-james-chasedown-block-saves-cavs-game-7-finals-2016-6?r=US&IR=T) here of the ball pinned to the glass.

Is he touching the rim there with his left hand? And if he is, is it goal tending?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/394 "2016-06-20T12:25:55Z")

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[Alternate angle](https://streamable.com/l1h9)

His hand does hit the rim but it’s incidental. I don’t think it’s goaltending unless the ball is no longer headed up, or it hits the backboard. He blocked it about 5 milliseconds before it hit the backboard.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/395 "2016-06-20T12:26:39Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> This might be one of the greatest storybook dramas in sports, ever. Even if you hate LeBron, for one night you have to tip your cap to him, or your just not human.

This - I have no rooting interest with either of these teams other than “good basketball”, and let’s be honest, most of the time you’re going to get more aesthetically beautiful basketball with what GS tries to do. But LeBron last night (and in this whole series, really) was something else, and it was amazing to watch. After the underwhelming game quality for most of this series, we couldn’t have asked for anything more from last night.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/396 "2016-06-20T12:45:20Z")

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The question on my mind today: If Lebron had stayed in Cleveland and never gone to Miami, do the Cavs still win their first championship in 2016? Or sooner? Or later?

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**Author:** ![davidw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@davidw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidw)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/397 "2016-06-20T13:55:44Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> I just can’t shake the feeling that going 15-9 in the playoffs after going 73-9 might point to the league figuring them out.

I don’t know, 7 of those 9 playoff loses came to the Thunder and to the Cavs. The Cavs have the greatest player of his generation and the Thunder have 2 of the 5 best players in the league right now. I think it’s more a story of the incredible level of competition at the championship level rather than “the league figuring them out.” I doubt if they’ll be losing multiple games to the TWolves and the Jazz.

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/398 "2016-06-20T14:55:55Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> I guess this ends the debate about this being the greatest season by a team ever.
> 
> Really hated to see it end this way.

Well, that makes one of us. AFAIC, our national nightmare is over! 😃

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/399 "2016-06-20T14:59:01Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I get that people were ticked at ‘The Decision’ but as I said at the time, LeBron was a 27-year-old kid. He was guilty of putting himself in a bad situation, appearing to give his home town the finger. He wasn’t doing any of that; he was just excited to play with a winner alongside D-Wade and for Pat Riley. Even so, he had to earn it there and he was a gritty guy in those Miami years.

Nitpick: LeBron James was 25 when he “took his talents to South Beach.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/400 "2016-06-20T15:05:03Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> This might be one of the greatest storybook dramas in sports, ever. Even if you hate LeBron, for one night you have to tip your cap to him, or your just not human.

I tweeted to Bill Simmons that LeBron has been involved in two of the greatest NBA Finals redemption stories ever: 2013 & 2014 with the Spurs (with the Spurs getting redemption over LeBron), and 2015 & 2016 with the Cavs (when LeBron got redemption over LeBron).

And this, imho, given the Cleveland angle, actually beats the Spurs victory in terms of “meaningfulness”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/401 "2016-06-20T15:15:18Z")

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LeBron James is the first player in NBA history in any series of any length – regardless of round – to lead outright or tie for the lead among all players from both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for an entire series.

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