# NBA Season 2015 - 2016 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 30, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077 "2015-09-30T20:37:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/442 "2016-06-22T17:33:12Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I think it’s hard for an outsider to understand. I think you’re overestimating how unique the dynamic is. I’m not trying to contradict you about where all the piss-on-LeBron came from; I’m saying who cares if that’s how they felt. They acted like idiots. Just for the hell of it I googled for a thread contemporaneous with the decision [and](http://www.cavstheblog.com/?p=2610): Burn his house down, hope he never feels safe in this city again, hope he tears his ACL, he’s on steroids anyway. Really doesn’t matter how especially betrayed they felt. They weren’t betrayed. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/443 "2016-06-22T18:44:32Z")
The Bulls made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs both years without Jordan. They finished 3rd and 5th in the conference. I took a look at the Cavs roster from 2003-2010, not a single player could have started on any of the above teams. Maybe an 80 year old Shaq in 2010. The best the Cavs could put around Lebron in seven years was Mo Williams and Larry Hughes. Ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/444 "2016-06-22T19:22:27Z")
Crowd estimate was revised upward to 1.3 million. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/445 "2016-06-22T21:37:17Z")
For comparison, someone on reddit looked it up > [@](#): > > 2015 there was an estimated 500,000-1,000,000 people lined up for the Warrior’s parade. > 2014 there was an estimated 175,000 people lined up for the Spurs parade. > 2013 and 2012 there was an estimated 400,000 people lined up for the Heat’s parades. > 2011 there was an estimated 250,000 people lined up for the Mavericks parade. > 2010 is where it gets a bit murky, with multiple reports saying anywhere between 500,000-2,000,000 people lined up for the Lakers parade. So that’s pretty favorable, since it’s the same sport and recent. I was surprised to find that apparently Cleveland is only about a fifth to a quarter of Chicago’s population (metro area for both). Given that, 1.3 vs 2 is pretty favorable. Cleveland metro area is around 2.1m, so that’s significantly more than half of the people in the whole area being there. Actually people from all over the world came - the news shows were interviewing people from Indonesia and Lebanon and all sorts of random places. Cleveland fandom spreads around the world like some weird sort of leprosy. I don’t know if it’s still true, but a few years ago the Browns Backers was the biggest fan network was the biggest of its sort in the world with clubs in like 20 or 30 countries. Cleveland isn’t even a basketball town - if the Browns somehow won a championship that number would manage to go over 2 million. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/446 "2016-06-23T01:44:15Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > To me he will never be in the same category as Bird, Isiah, Kobe, Magic, and Duncan Because none of those players overcame a 3-1 deficit in the Finals? ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/447 "2016-06-23T01:48:59Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#): > > Because none of those players overcame a 3-1 deficit in the Finals? Bird actually did in 1982 vs the Sixers. No because they all stayed with the team that drafted them until the end. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/448 "2016-06-23T01:55:52Z")
Bzzzzz - incorrect!! Boston over Philly was in the Conference Finals. Sorry, but thanks for playing! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077/449 "2016-06-23T02:00:05Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > To me he will never be in the same category as Bird, Isiah, Kobe, Magic, and Duncan Now I know what it is. None of those players ever lead outright or tied for the lead among all players from both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for an entire series. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nba-season-2015-2016/733077.md?page=22)