# NBC releases Fall schedule. Bad NBC, bad! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 18, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454 "2005-05-18T19:09:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/1 "2005-05-18T19:09:29Z")
[NBC has released their Fall schedule](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/16/AR2005051601401.html), which they hope will drag them out of fourth place. I say big hairy (restraining myself from cursing as this is not the Pit) chance. **To recap the crap brought back:** Apprentice, and another Apprentice. Second one starring Martha Demonspawn Stewart. The first one made me grimace in pain the episode or two I tried watching. Will and Grace (and Jack and the lush chick and oh-did-you-know-Jack’s-gay-let’s-ram-this-unfunny-home) is returning about five seasons past when the show itself became the joke. Joey. As much as Will and Grace tries desperately to turn the same tired gay cliches home, Joey does the same for stupid. Trouble is, it’s run out of ideas in only one season. The Office. Not the good British one, of course. **New shows:** Three wishes. Amy Grant, Christian pop singer who hasn’t touched the mainstream in ten years, plays wish-granting Fairy Godmother. My Name is Earl. Con lotto winner makes good on his life. NBC has high hopes. I’ll wait and see. Fathom. “about seemingly innocent little sea creatures who turn into big scary monsters – sort of “ET” meets “Aliens” meets “Independence Day,”” Wow, this sounds riveting. Meh. E-Ring. Dennis Hopper in a drama set in the Pentagon. I might give this show a try, despite Jerry Bruckheimer being attached. Probably far more interesting than my experiences in the real Pentagon. Inconceivable. Horrible title, and a show about a fertility clinic. Expect high drama about unborn babies and snide comments, as well as at least one focused episode, about those harlots who give up the gift of pregnancy for abortion. **And what made me write this entirely pessimistic OP:** Scrubs, the only good thing NBC had going for it in prime-time, is on back burner hiatus while utter (expletive deleted because this is not the Pit (yet))…nonsense is paraded out to hopefully die grisly miserable deaths from flop sweat. Oh, and no more American Dreams, which was certainly better than Fathom or Inconceivable could ever aspire to be. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/2 "2005-05-18T19:22:17Z")
Yeah, I’m pissed that “Scrubs” has been scrubbed. Argh. Maybe another network will have enough brains to pick it up and run with it. “Inconceivable” - You can guess the first words that popped out of my mouth. “You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” ---
**Author:** ![sewalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@sewalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sewalk)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/3 "2005-05-18T19:26:47Z")
“They canceled “Scrubs”? Inconceivable!” Somehow I see this series title getting much mileage on the SDMB, all of it old and tired, but still occasionally amusing. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/4 "2005-05-18T19:31:16Z")
Um… guys… as discussed before “Scrubs” is NOT canceled. Not even close. They are delaying the start of the season because Zack Braff is working on a movie. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/5 "2005-05-18T19:33:36Z")
> [@sewalk](#): > > “They canceled “Scrubs”? Inconceivable!” It wasn’t canceled. It will be back in mid season. Still, the show deserves much better than that. ---
**Author:** ![sewalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@sewalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sewalk)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/6 "2005-05-18T19:40:29Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > They are delaying the start of the season because Zack Braff is working on a movie. I hope it’ll be better than **Garden State**. I was led to expect a **Graduate** for a new generation. What a letdown. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/7 "2005-05-18T19:48:19Z")
I’m still wondering if Fathom is based on the comic. [http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~afjacobs/Frame01.htm](http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~afjacobs/Frame01.htm) ---
**Author:** ![riserius1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@riserius1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/riserius1)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/8 "2005-05-18T19:49:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, and no more American Dreams, which was certainly better than Fathom or Inconceivable could ever aspire to be. I am absolutely dumbfounded that they would cancel one of the best family dramas, that IMHO, never got schmaltzy or preachy(like for instance Seventh Heaven). But, yeh, you’re right, let’s renew Joey, by all means. :rolleyes: And, while we’re at it, let’s give Martha"Jailbird"stewart her own show. I think I am through with the peacock network for a good long while. BTW Don’t get me started on CBS cancelling Joan of Arcadia!!! Chris W ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/9 "2005-05-18T20:00:07Z")
The new NBC shows sound pretty dreadful. I may find myself yearning for more of _Medical Investigation_. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/10 "2005-05-18T20:01:25Z")
Say, why isn’t _Friends_ on the line-up? Has it been cancelled as well, or will it be shown mid-season? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/11 "2005-05-18T20:06:13Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I’m still wondering if Fathom is based on the comic. [It is.](http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2001-08/30/10.55.film) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/12 "2005-05-18T20:07:43Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Say, why isn’t _Friends_ on the line-up? Has it been cancelled as well, or will it be shown mid-season? This is a joke, right? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/13 "2005-05-18T20:21:19Z")
> [@Only Mostly Dead](#): > > My Name is Earl. Con lotto winner makes good on his life. NBC has high hopes. I’ll wait and see. I’m a big fan of Jason Lee. I always have hopes for something with him … or Jeremy Piven. So far, I’ve been frequently disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/14 "2005-05-18T20:32:45Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > I’m a big fan of Jason Lee. I always have hopes for something with him … or Jeremy Piven. So far, I’ve been frequently disappointed. Much the same as my stubborn support of Paul Giamatti. And before I get pitted, what I meant to say on “Inconceivable”: There will doubtlessly be a character on the show espousing a strong pro-life view. There will also probably be a character espousing a strong pro-choice view. What’s more, they’ll probably share an office. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/15 "2005-05-18T20:49:39Z")
In an article in this morning’s Wall Street Journal, “The Office” is actually rated lower than some of the other NBC shows that were scrapped. What saved it is viewer base. What viewers TO has have lots of disposable income. That’s what the network is pitching to advertisers. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/16 "2005-05-18T21:00:01Z")
> [@Only Mostly Dead](#): > > Inconceivable. Horrible title, and a show about a fertility clinic. What if they get Wallace Shawn and Mandy Pantinkin to guest star in a few episodes? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/17 "2005-05-18T21:28:09Z")
> [@Only Mostly Dead](#): > > What’s more, they’ll probably share an office. Knowing TV, they’ll be siblings. Or even better, twins. And they’ll share a bed, too. And needles! I’ll stop now. ---
**Author:** ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/18 "2005-05-18T22:25:05Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > … or Jeremy Piven. So far, I’ve been frequently disappointed. Have you seen Entourage on HBO? He has a small part, but his appearances _make_ the show. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/19 "2005-05-18T23:10:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Only Mostly Dead]The Office. Not the good British one, of course. I agree with you, The Office is about half as good as its British counterpart. That only makes it about twice as good as The Apprentice, Will and Grace, and Joey combined. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454/20 "2005-05-19T14:12:33Z")
> [@Ass For A Hat](#): > > Have you seen Entourage on HBO? He has a small part, but his appearances _make_ the show. You’re definitely right about that. I didn’t say I was _always_ disappointed. Piven (and Lee, for that matter), have only _frequently_ disappointed me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-releases-fall-schedule-bad-nbc-bad/304454.md?page=2)