# NBC Richard Engel is Missing in Syria; NBC News Enforces News Blackout

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 17, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344 "2012-12-17T20:17:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/1 "2012-12-17T20:17:42Z")

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NBC correspondent Richard Engel is missing in Syria, along with his Turkish news producer. Reports are saying he has been missing since last Thursday. NBC News is apparently asking for a blackout from all other news media about his disappearance.

Gawker, held the story 24 hours, [before breaking the blackout](http://gawker.com/5969029/richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout).

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/2 "2012-12-17T21:28:28Z")

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Terrible news. I hope they’re safe, but it’s easy to picture the worst with everything that has been happening in Syria recently.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/3 "2012-12-17T21:35:46Z")

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Based on that explanation of why Gawker failed to abide by the request for a news blackout on a missing reporter, I might just start a Pit thread. That’s just unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/4 "2012-12-17T21:36:22Z")

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I’m sure anyone else in a different profession would get the same news blackout for their safety.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/5 "2012-12-17T21:39:57Z")

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Actually, I think Gawker’s correct. If Engel’s disappearance was being discussed in non-English language press and openly on Twitter, then NBC is naive to try and prevent the discussion. If it’s already on Twitter, it’s too late to try and shut the barn door.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/6 "2012-12-17T21:41:39Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Actually, I think Gawker’s correct. If Engel’s disappearance was being discussed in non-English language press and openly on Twitter, then NBC is naive to try and prevent the discussion. If it’s already on Twitter, it’s too late to try and shut the barn door.

I see your point, because the OP did link to that Xinhua article… Oh wait, it didn’t.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/7 "2012-12-17T21:42:56Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I’m sure anyone else in a different profession would get the same news blackout for their safety.

I agree. Fuck NBC. Do you think that the ghouls over there would ask for a news blackout if an engineer or a teacher went missing.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/8 "2012-12-17T21:44:02Z")

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Right: if the status of the reporters had already been broadcast around the world and was circulating on Twitter, there is no blackout. And while I expect NBC to act out of an abundance of caution to try to protect these people, if there is no specific evidence to substantiate the need for a blackout, then there shouldn’t be one.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/9 "2012-12-17T21:44:40Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I agree. Fuck NBC. Do you think that the ghouls over there would ask for a news blackout if an engineer or a teacher went missing.

If they thought there was a good chance that publicizing it could get that person killed? Yeah, I think so. That being said, it sounds like that proverbial horse already escaped the barn.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/10 "2012-12-17T21:47:26Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I’m sure anyone else in a different profession would get the same news blackout for their safety.

Is an [aid worker](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319077/UK-aid-worker-Linda-Norgrove-killed-Afghanistan.html) the same profession as a journalist?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/11 "2012-12-17T21:47:39Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> If they thought there was a good chance that publicizing it could get that person killed? Yeah, I think so.

Clearly you have more respect for that profession than I do.

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> That being said, it sounds like that proverbial horse already escaped the barn.

This much is true.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/12 "2012-12-17T21:49:08Z")

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I hope, assuming he survives, he comes out of it with a great story.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/13 "2012-12-17T21:51:49Z")

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[His Wikipedia bio reports him missing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Engel).

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/14 "2012-12-18T00:38:16Z")

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If he was kidnapped, how would making it public or hiding the info affect his health one way or another?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/15 "2012-12-18T00:47:10Z")

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If the kidnappers knew how big a deal he is, it might change things. It might raise the ransom price, or it might make for more publicity than they ever dreamed of if they kill him. They might already know this or they might not, but best not to advertise it.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/16 "2012-12-18T00:48:28Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> If he was kidnapped, how would making it public or hiding the info affect his health one way or another?

Demands by the kidnappers.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/17 "2012-12-18T00:52:26Z")

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It was reported that during the kidnapping of a New York Times reporter, the blackout was primarily motivated to get the captors to reduce their demands so that a deal could be quickly reached to allow the reporter’s release. The thinking goes that if nobody seems to care that someone is missing, it will be easier to talk them out of unreasonable demands. Also, denying the captors a grand stage if they intend to do the worst to the captive.

There’s also the concern that if kidnappings are consistently widely publicized (or result in huge payoffs), more and more bad guys will target the press for hostage taking. Sort of analogous to the Somali pirate phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/18 "2012-12-18T01:49:54Z")

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I’m pretty sure that the kidnappers are familiar with Google and NBC had no problem blaring out reports about Somali pirates and their hostages.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/19 "2012-12-18T01:53:38Z")

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Have they looked in Newton Connecticut? All the other newsman are there. Why should Engel be any different.

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbc-richard-engel-is-missing-in-syria-nbc-news-enforces-news-blackout/644344/20 "2012-12-18T05:08:19Z")

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I hope they find him.

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