# NBC's Fall Schedule

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 14, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056 "2007-05-14T16:11:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/21 "2007-05-14T21:21:24Z")

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[QUOTE=pinkfreud]  
As I had feared, there will be no Raines in the fall. It will be a dry season without Jeff Goldblum.  
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Indeed.

I’m tickled that Friday Night Lights will be back, but the time slot sucks. I admit that it took a few weeks for me to remember that it **wasn’t** on Friday nights. 🙂

The time travel show might be fun (yay Vorenus!), but I have no interest in another Bionic Woman, or in voting for new Heroes.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/22 "2007-05-15T03:01:17Z")

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Well, um, NBC still has Earl.

I guess we can assume that Audrey’s restraining order against Jack on 24 will last approximately as long as _Lipstick Jungle_?

Can anybody see this lineup having any chance at all of getting NBC out of its fourth-place, record-low ratings rut? Even given that some of the shows I don’t like here are going to remain and/or become pretty popular, I can’t see how this lineup compares with anything the other three networks are going to put up.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/23 "2007-05-15T04:18:15Z")

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My viewing plans:

Monday: Heroes  
Thursday: My Name is Earl and The Office

Sorry, NBC, that’s all the love I got for you.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/24 "2007-05-15T04:21:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Kiros]  
I guess we can assume that Audrey’s restraining order against Jack on 24 will last approximately as long as _Lipstick Jungle_?  
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[Ewww](http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/02/06/brooke-shields-and-other-casting-news/). Could they have chosen a more unflattering picture?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/25 "2007-05-15T04:26:55Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
I like Lewis, too, though [the best thing he’s ever done](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420291/) is apparently unknown by virtually everyone but me. _Life_ will be up against _Lost_ (thank you DVR!)  
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Are you high? Have you not seen _Band of Brothers_? Wow, I’m just speechless.

> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> I’m tickled that Friday Night Lights will be back, but the time slot sucks. I admit that it took a few weeks for me to remember that it wasn’t on Friday nights.

I think this will be the death of the show. Friday night is where shows not aimed at 60-year olds go to die. In addition, you have to really wonder about the logic of the networks when they choose to broadcast a show about high school football, presumably popular with fans of such, at the _exact same time_ as the real thing is happening in every community around the country. Christ, network execs are even dumber than NBA GMs.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/26 "2007-05-15T07:38:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Omniscient]  
I think this will be the death of the show. Friday night is where shows not aimed at 60-year olds go to die. In addition, you have to really wonder about the logic of the networks when they choose to broadcast a show about high school football, presumably popular with fans of such, at the _exact same time_ as the real thing is happening in every community around the country. Christ, network execs are even dumber than NBA GMs.  
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Yeah, right?

It would be like ESPN broadcasting _Playmakers_ on Sunday afternoons at 1:00pm.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/27 "2007-05-15T13:49:54Z")

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No gnashing of teeth over the cancellation of _The Apprentice_? Despite my fondness for the show in its heyday (seasons I and II), I didn’t even make it to the halfway point this past season.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/28 "2007-05-15T14:06:22Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
No gnashing of teeth over the cancellation of _The Apprentice_? Despite my fondness for the show in its heyday (seasons I and II), I didn’t even make it to the halfway point this past season.  
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I hadn’t noticed that it was canceled. For me that is a \*good \*thing, not a bad!

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/29 "2007-05-15T14:15:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Omniscient]  
Are you high? Have you not seen _Band of Brothers_? Wow, I’m just speechless.  
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Not to hijack too far from NBC, but yeah, _BoB_ was the best mini-series ever, and Damian Lewis was excellent in it.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/30 "2007-05-15T14:17:56Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
\*\*Scrubs \*\* [is coming back](http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/05/14/the-upfronts-nbc/)! Happy dance. Thursday night – rock solid.  
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Bust a move!

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/31 "2007-05-15T14:31:37Z")

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I’ve heard that they ordered thirty episodes of The Office and 25 of My Name Is Earl, so I hope they keep up the quality writing and acting.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/32 "2007-05-15T14:47:36Z")

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If they move The Office to 9 PM, its ratings will sink even lower thanks to the Grey’s Anatomy juggernaut. My girl and I watch both every week (I miss Scrubs so much!), and I think a lot of female viewers tune into The Office just for the Jim/Pam aspect and then switch to ABC for Grey’s at 9. This could be a bad move.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/33 "2007-05-15T15:26:51Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
No gnashing of teeth over the cancellation of _The Apprentice_? Despite my fondness for the show in its heyday (seasons I and II), I didn’t even make it to the halfway point this past season.  
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You didn’t miss much. I just watched about 10 minutes of each episode to get the general idea of what was going on. Long story short:

- The “Have” versus “Have Nots” thing was dumb.
- The tasks were dumb, and even more blatant product placement than usual (Trump Dual Penis Towers anyone?).
- The contestants were dumb.
- Trump was dumb.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/34 "2007-05-15T15:30:29Z")

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What about Ivanka (and her amazing how-you-see-it-how-you-don’t bosom)?

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/35 "2007-05-15T15:44:15Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
What about Ivanka (and her amazing how-you-see-it-how-you-don’t bosom)?  
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She was the one bright spot, but whatever she brought to the boardroom was ruined by the presence of The Hair and The Hair Jr. 😛

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/36 "2007-05-15T16:32:04Z")

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The Apprentice isn’t cancelled. NBC just can’t seem to find a place to put it. I’m sure some slots will open up by January, since not every single show is going to still be on the air by then. Doesn’t matter to me, since I stopped watching once the show turned into a weekly advertisement for one of Trump’s friends companies.

I’m taking a new approach to TV watching next season. Every single serial show and EVERY new show are going to be hoarded via DVR and DVDR and watched in marathons. Too much of my life gets bogged down (even when I am FFing through commercials) getting invested in shows that leave me on a cliffhanger every single week, and then I spend even more time coming here and to TWoP to get and occasionally contribute second thoughts. Non-serial shows aren’t such a big deal, since they can be watched out of order and have a self-containing start and end. At this point it’s kind of hard to say which one Earl and 30 Rock fall into, since they have ongoing storylines, but not so much that they leave you begging for more when each episode ends. The Office definitely fits the serial category though.

Anyway, my 2007/08 plan for NBC:

Watch on a weekly basis, when I have free time and am in the mood:  
Law & Order: SVU … I am strongly considering dropping this show just like I dropped the original L&O, so I might only watch episodes that have interesting descriptions  
30 Rock  
My Name Is Earl  
1 vs 100  
Saturday Night Live (with one finger on the FF button the entire time)

Hoard, and watch in marathons once or twice a season, on a rainy day or long plane/train trip:  
The Office  
Heroes

holy crap, I never realized how little serial programming NBC has that I watch!

Catch up with, if and ONLY if they get picked up for a full order. Otherwise, pretend they never happened:  
Heroes: Origins (I need to figure out the scheduling between this and regular Heroes)  
The IT Crowd  
Chuck  
Journeyman  
Life

note that even now, I NEVER watch television live. Some of my favorite shows I start watching at x:20 just so I can watch them ASAP without hitting any commercial breaks

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/37 "2007-05-15T16:46:10Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
Well, I love\*\* The IT Crowd\*\*, and the fact that they got the original Moss to play him in the US version is icing on the cake. Oh, and Joel McHale is the little candy flowers on the icing on the cake.  
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Good to know!

I must confess that I didn’t know it was based on a British show until this thread. I’m excited now.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/38 "2007-05-15T17:02:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Omniscient]  
Are you high? Have you not seen _Band of Brothers_? Wow, I’m just speechless.  
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Yeah, I’ve seen _BoB_ and Lewis is terrific in it. Have you seen _Keane_? He’s even better.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/39 "2007-05-15T18:01:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Big Bad Voodoo Lou]  
If they move The Office to 9 PM, its ratings will sink even lower thanks to the Grey’s Anatomy juggernaut. My girl and I watch both every week (I miss Scrubs so much!), and I think a lot of female viewers tune into The Office just for the Jim/Pam aspect and then switch to ABC for Grey’s at 9. This could be a bad move.  
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Actually, the Grey’s juggernaut is running out of steam - and summer hiatus could kill it. A lot of viewers have been kind of bored with the past half season and are really unhappy with the turns it’s taken this sweeps, it’s losing one of the few decent characters it has left (to a more or less unwatchable spinoff), and there’s a good chance that people won’t turn back after three months of nothing.

The Office might do well in that time slot.

Right now, though, nothing new looks all that interesting - but I’ve been wrong before… I was wrong about Heroes which I’ll now have to watch on DVD in August.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nbcs-fall-schedule/404056/40 "2007-05-15T19:42:05Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
Yeah, I’ve seen _BoB_ and Lewis is terrific in it. Have you seen _Keane_? He’s even better.  
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He may have been better in it, certainly had a more substantial role (with _BoB_ being such an ensemble and all), but you said it was the best thing you’ve seen him in. That implied that _Keane_ was better than _Band of Brothers_ and I simply cannot let a statement like that be. Lewis could have been in the freaking _Godfather_ and such a statement would have been blasphemy.

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