# NC Preacher advocates beating the gay out of kids **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663 "2012-05-02T17:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/41 "2012-05-03T11:42:38Z")
I believe the argument goes that librul commie gay-loving, abortion-allowing countries without morals tend to have lower birth rates, therefore, if we embrace gay marriage, civilization will end. Because allowing gay marriage reduces respect for traditional marriage or something, and therefore people stop getting married and procreating. It’s no less rational than a lot of other things Christians believe, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/42 "2012-05-03T17:52:26Z")
> [@YWalker](#): > > I so want my state to do the right thing, and thumb our noses at the jerks who wrote this unnecessary, hateful legislation. If y’all do, I will give you a “TAR HEELS _ **RULE!!!** _” shout that they can hear in Georgia. (And I’m in upstate NY.) ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/43 "2012-05-03T18:19:12Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Hmmm well in answer to my own question in the comments of one article the claim is made that > > Seeing as how the comment is borderline nonsensical otherwise I’d say this has a good chance of being true, being introduced at least. Or maybe her husband believes gay men give birth to negroes? Obviously it will encourage gay men to enter into unhappy sham marriages with women, which result in the production of babies at a somewhat higher rate than a gay marriage would. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/44 "2012-05-03T18:28:57Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > If y’all do, I will give you a “TAR HEELS _ **RULE!!!** _” shout that they can hear in Georgia. (And I’m in upstate NY.) So will I, here in Pittsburgh. I will have to take back a lot of the teasing I’ve given Mr. Neville about being from North Carolina. That won’t be so great, but it would be worth it. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/45 "2012-05-03T18:52:18Z")
John Mace: > [@](#): > > Hey, look at the bright side. The fact that the vote is going to be close IN NORTH CAROLINA means we’ve come a long way. How would that vote have gone 10 years ago? Hell, 10 years ago, how would such a vote have turned out in NEW YORK or CALIFORNIA? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/46 "2012-05-03T19:27:04Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Hell, 10 years ago, how would such a vote have turned out in NEW YORK or CALIFORNIA? Ten years? Try [four.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8) ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/47 "2012-05-03T19:53:09Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > We’re lucky in a way that it’s worded in such a godawful way. Actually, from what I’m reading, the poor wording is hurting the pro-gay side. People don’t understand the wording and assume it just bans gay marriage. What it does is BAN EVERYTHING (e.g. domestic partnerships). Polling shows that the pro-gay side does better when the amendment is explained clearly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/48 "2012-05-03T19:56:01Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I visit family a fair amount in North Carolina, and I can safely say I would much, much rather live there than Arizona. At least I’d be away from the damn border. I know. Waaaay too many Mexicans in Arizona! ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/49 "2012-05-03T20:31:23Z")
Miller: > [@](#): > > Ten years? Try four. No argument there. Just pointing out that the image of redneck southerners that **John Mace** ’s post was invoking is a bit of a narrow view. Gay marriage is an issue that even in states generally considered liberal (yes, I know, Vermont and Hawaii excepted) wouldn’t have been “progressive” enough to favor. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/50 "2012-05-03T20:54:47Z")
I’d like to beat the homophobia out of this guy. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/51 "2012-05-03T21:36:30Z")
I’d like to defend this guy. He really shouldn’t be blamed for his words because he’s a moron. And I think he actually spouts this homophobic crap because he is suppressing his desire to fuck sheep. He’s also using all the violent rhetoric because he’s a coward and only gets to speak his mind when he’s backed by a hateful mind. So all of you should be giving this piece a shit of break, he can’t help it. ---
**Author:** ![Bleach23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bleach23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bleach23)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/52 "2012-05-03T22:58:27Z")
We should change our state motto to North Carolina only 4 years behind New York in social progress. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/53 "2012-05-03T23:06:23Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > And I think he actually spouts this homophobic crap because he is suppressing his desire to fuck sheep. Hey, leave Scotty McCreery out of this! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/54 "2012-05-04T00:25:59Z")
> [@Bleach23](#): > > We should change our state motto to North Carolina only 4 years behind New York in social progress. Considering our speculation about this guy’s orientation, I find the state motto very fitting: “To be, rather than to seem.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/55 "2012-05-04T02:39:19Z")
> [@Bleach23](#): > > We should change our state motto to North Carolina only 4 years behind New York in social progress. I wouldn’t bet on gay marriage being legal in North Carolina in 2015. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/56 "2012-05-04T03:14:29Z")
Awfully hard to punch a ballot with a cracked wrist. What? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/57 "2012-05-04T04:35:06Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Hmmm well in answer to my own question in the comments of one article the claim is made that > > > [@](#): > > > > And I have read several articles that attest to the fact that NC politicians will use this bill as precedent to introduce additional bills that will further define marriage as a union between a heterosexual couple of the SAME RACE. > > Seeing as how the comment is borderline nonsensical otherwise I’d say this has a good chance of being true, being introduced at least. Or maybe her husband believes gay men give birth to negroes? My immediate reaction is that such a law would be unconstitutional on its face. _Loving v. Virginia_ made that extremely clear. They could pass it, but it would be overturned so quickly North Carolina’s collective head would spin. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/58 "2012-05-04T12:50:22Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’d like to defend this guy. He really shouldn’t be blamed for his words because he’s a moron. And I think he actually spouts this homophobic crap because he is suppressing his desire to fuck sheep. He’s also using all the violent rhetoric because he’s a coward and only gets to speak his mind when he’s backed by a hateful mind. So all of you should be giving this piece a shit of break, he can’t help it. Can we beat the ignorance, stupidity, cowardice, and desire to fuck sheep out of him, in addition to the homophobia? It ought to work about as well as beating the gay out of anybody else. This guy is a Christian preacher, and as such must be familiar with the Golden Rule. If he advocates beating others, we can infer from that that he would like to be beaten. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/59 "2012-05-04T13:58:39Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > Can we beat the ignorance, stupidity, cowardice, and desire to fuck sheep out of him, in addition to the homophobia? It ought to work about as well as beating the gay out of anybody else. > > This guy is a Christian preacher, and as such must be familiar with the Golden Rule. If he advocates beating others, we can infer from that that he would like to be beaten. Yes. That makes perfect sense. If you can beat the gay out of someone, surely you can beat the dumbfuck out of a preacher. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663/60 "2012-05-04T15:59:17Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > If y’all do, I will give you a “TAR HEELS _ **RULE!!!** _” shout that they can hear in Georgia. (And I’m in upstate NY.) Please don’t. I really want the amendment to fail. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-preacher-advocates-beating-the-gay-out-of-kids/620663.md?page=4)