# NC Republicans, you are fucking cowards **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281 "2014-10-03T15:24:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/21 "2014-10-04T17:50:23Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The Dalai freaking Lama is a romanticized dick. When you look at his position on a lot of social issues, he comes out to the right of Joe Ratzinger. Oh, thank god someone else is saying that. Ever since I saw him on stage with Helms I thought he was kind of a dick, but just about everyone I know, regardless of their religion, treats him like a saint. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/22 "2014-10-04T17:53:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Helms, as near as I can tell, was incredibly charismatic and a consummate politician. Sure, he embodied lawful evil and was a bully and a supporter of some of the most repressive regimes in the world, but damn could the man make friends. He even appeared on stage with the Dalai freaking Lama. It actually speaks more to Bono’s skill as a politician. Helms was Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations at the time, and Bono wanted to increase AIDS relief in Africa. Helms asked him to make it an international effort so the US wouldn’t be the only one funding it. That served to increase Bono’s global influence, so Helms demonstrated some big political mojo. Helms may have been racist among other things, but nobody could accuse him of being spineless or lazy. He was a neanderthal, but he was \*our \*neanderthal. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/23 "2014-10-04T19:28:59Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You know you’re allowed to not have an opinion about things you’re ignorant about, right? You’re even allowed to not post about them. Wait, what? I thought “having opinions about things you’re totally ignorant of” was the founding principle of the Pit. It’s actually a rule in GD. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/24 "2014-10-04T19:39:55Z")
You are free to hold opinions about subjects you know little or nothing about, but are obligated to revise such opinions in the event of actual information. Its the Cecilian Defense. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/25 "2014-10-04T19:53:25Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So, this time I’m marking RETURN TO SENDER on the mailings. Bulk mail rates do not include return mail service. It all goes right into the recycle bin at the post office. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/26 "2014-10-04T22:24:13Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Bulk mail rates do not include return mail service. It all goes right into the recycle bin at the post office. Thanks for harshing my symbolic retribution. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/27 "2014-10-04T23:04:06Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Helms, as near as I can tell, was incredibly charismatic and a consummate politician. Sure, he embodied lawful evil and was a bully and a supporter of some of the most repressive regimes in the world, but damn could the man make friends. He even appeared on stage with the Dalai freaking Lama. > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > It actually speaks more to Bono’s skill as a politician. Helms was Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations at the time, and Bono wanted to increase AIDS relief in Africa. Helms asked him to make it an international effort so the US wouldn’t be the only one funding it. That served to increase Bono’s global influence, so Helms demonstrated some big political mojo. 😕 1.) How did Bono get brought into the discussion? 2.) Are you talking about Bono from U2 or Bono from Sonny and Cher? 3.) Or is the Dalai Lama’s given name Bono? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/28 "2014-10-04T23:24:44Z")
As I understand it, it was the rock star and political activist/lobbyist Bono (from U2) who engaged Jesse Helms on issues like Third World debt relief, and I think was responsible for his meeting the Dalai Lama. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281/29 "2014-10-06T18:20:11Z")
**Carl Spackler:** A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald… striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-republicans-you-are-fucking-cowards/700281.md?page=1)