# NC teacher captured on video suggesting student could be arrested for Obama criticism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606 "2012-05-21T15:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/61 "2012-05-22T16:53:32Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Ever seen Prime Minister’s Questions (PMQs)? if the PM isn’t disrespected\* at least once a week, the Opposition\*\* is accused of not doing its job. > > \*I still have a hard time using “disrespect” as a verb > \*\*This is not just a reference to the other parties but [a more formalized arrangement](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty's_Most_Loyal_Opposition_(United_Kingdom)). [Disrepect as a verb](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSNK-9v7_JI) ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/62 "2012-05-22T17:14:06Z")
[**According to this**](http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/call-me-when-you-got-no-class/) site, the kid’s parents pulled him out of that school. As well, according to that story, the kid had a friend record the teacher because her rant was part of a pattern. She’s been suspended with pay. ---
**Author:** ![punch\_line\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e7dd6/32.png) [@punch\_line\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/punch_line_loser)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/63 "2012-05-22T19:58:38Z")
A similar thing happened to me around the time of the 2008 elections. I was doing a City Year in Boston (which explained a lot) and we took a day off of work and training to have everyone share their thoughts about the election (seriously). When I stood up and voiced my reservations about Obama (whom, for the record, I did end up voting for), namely that the conversation around him seemed to focus more on the unprecedented nature of his campaign rather than his actual political acumen, one of the leaders of the organization pretty much struck me down, saying that I “shouldn’t doubt Obama” because he’s “got confidence” and apparently not much else. I hate that people in my country get so fucking stupid about politics. Can I pit them? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/64 "2012-05-22T21:48:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > An academic on a C-SPAN3 panel discussing the Civil War admitted that the average academic is a leftist? My God, talk about burying the lead! It was probably just a typo. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/65 "2012-05-22T22:16:00Z")
It’s an unfortunate fact that any Presidential candidate who only attracts intelligent, articulate voters will lose in the bloodiest landslide history has ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/66 "2012-05-22T22:29:27Z")
Its democracy. Not because its smart, or efficient, only because it is most just. You love democracy, you marry her, even though you know she’s a little crazy all of the time and full blown psycho some of the time. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/67 "2012-05-23T01:26:19Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > [**According to this**](http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/call-me-when-you-got-no-class/) site, the kid’s parents pulled him out of that school. > > As well, according to that story, the kid had a friend record the teacher because her rant was part of a pattern. > > She’s been suspended with pay. How the hell is that punishment. Spout stupid shit and show that you’re not fit to teach and the best thing they can come up with is, “Well, let’s pay her not to teach.” Fuck. If that’s a good idea that should be her a million dollars not to teach. What a fucked up system. And how does this happen? I’m goon go way out on a limb and say that it has to do with something that start’s with “her u” and ends with “nion”. One more reason why our schools need to be rid of that plague. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/68 "2012-05-23T01:30:04Z")
Heroin? She’s on smack? Well, definitely unsuitable, there are _limits_, by God! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/69 "2012-05-23T01:49:23Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > How the hell is that punishment. Spout stupid shit and show that you’re not fit to teach and the best thing they can come up with is, “Well, let’s pay her not to teach.” I imagine that is rather standard, in case a teacher is found to not be at fault. Innocent before proven guilty and all that. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/70 "2012-05-23T01:58:54Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > How the hell is that punishment. Spout stupid shit and show that you’re not fit to teach and the best thing they can come up with is, “Well, let’s pay her not to teach.” They’ve suspended her with pay WHILE THEY CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION, you fucking dolt. It’s pretty standard practice in plenty of workplaces, especially state workplaces. It happens to cops all the time. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/71 "2012-05-23T02:08:28Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > you fucking dolt. Oh crap, I’m in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/72 "2012-05-23T02:08:50Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > They’ve suspended her with pay WHILE THEY CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION, you fucking dolt. It’s pretty standard practice in plenty of workplaces, especially state workplaces. It happens to cops all the time. The investigation should take no more than a couple of days. All they have to do is listen to the tape that was released, then ask the students present in the class whether there was any context at all that could mitigate the idiocy of the teacher (like, if she said “For the next 15 minutes I am going to pretend to be an idiot, to teach you what an idiotic argument sounds like”). If there wasn’t, she should be fired. What will happen instead, I bet, is she will continue be on paid vacation for a couple of months, until the media forgets about all this, and then quietly reinstated. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/73 "2012-05-23T02:36:00Z")
It’s North Carolina. Not exactly a union stronghold. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/74 "2012-05-23T03:17:20Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s North Carolina. Not exactly a union stronghold. We’re in the Pit, and I know I’m gonna regret this, but WTF is with your charter title? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/75 "2012-05-23T06:17:30Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > They’ve suspended her with pay WHILE THEY CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION, you fucking dolt. It’s pretty standard practice in plenty of workplaces, especially state workplaces. It happens to cops all the time. I now it happens all the time, you fucking dolt hole. I also know what else happens all the time: dumb asses like this won’t be fired. Or, if MIRACULOUSLY, it is, it’ll take over a year! While being paid the whole fucking time. And for the same dumb-fuck reason: we allowed unions to wag the fucking dog. Fire her loud ignorant ass today! Two weeks pay and a “don’t let the door hit you in the ass” on the way out. If she wants to be a teacher so fucking bad let her go educate herself first. Now that would be instructive for kids and teachers so stupid it’s a wonder they manage to find the school they work at every day. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/76 "2012-05-23T09:00:12Z")
Would you rather she be fired summarily (as a state employee?) or continued to teach? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/77 "2012-05-23T13:48:16Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s North Carolina. Not exactly a union stronghold. …but she is a teacher which is generally a union stronghold. Maybe not in NC though…you tell me!!! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606/78 "2012-05-23T14:33:45Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > We’re in the Pit, and I know I’m gonna regret this, but WTF is with your charter title? > 🙂 When I set up my custom title I forgot that it replaces “member”. It was supposed to say… > [@](#): > > Member > …and by that I mean penis. …but it didn’t work out. :o [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama-criticism/622606.md?page=3)