# NCAA Lone Star Conference "disinvites" a team **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [April 4, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162 "2023-04-04T22:45:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/1 "2023-04-04T22:45:02Z")
Simon Fraser University in British Columbia is the only Canadian university that competes in the NCAA. Today the SFU administration announced the SFU football team “has not been invited to continue in the Lone Star conference,” and so can not compete in the NCAA. It was further announced that SFU would end its football program. I don’t follow college sports, so what can you tell me about the Lone Star Conference and “not inviting” a team? My guess is “SFU is so bad we don’t want to play with them any more” but is that correct? What else might it mean? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/2 "2023-04-05T00:10:16Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#): > > My guess is “SFU is so bad we don’t want to play with them any more” but is that correct? Since they joined the NCAA in 2010 their record has been 18-99, so they’re not very good. But since the Lone Star Conference is centered in Texas they may have simply decided that the travel was too much for these small colleges and universities. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/3 "2023-04-05T00:20:50Z")
The conference does have teams in Oregon and Washington, but still, the cross-border excursion and the extra miles may have been an issue. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/4 "2023-04-05T00:23:07Z")
Being bad isn’t a bad thing. Free wins for everybody else to pad their stats. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/5 "2023-04-05T00:35:01Z")
Right! So why disinvite a team that is so helpful? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/6 "2023-04-05T01:52:19Z")
Because the hassle of extra travel and boarder issues isn’t worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/7 "2023-04-05T03:06:39Z")
In the NCAA stats aren’t necessarily as important as the quality of your opponents. It’s hard to get ranked when you’re beating low quality teams. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/8 "2023-04-05T14:53:15Z")
I think we are whooshing each other! ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/9 "2023-04-05T15:52:10Z")
Which doesn’t really apply so much here because the Lone Star Conference is made up entirely of Division II teams. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/10 "2023-04-05T16:00:17Z")
Strength of schedule still matters for basketball, but looking over how D2 football works it looks like it doesn’t matter, so never mind. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaa-lone-star-conference-disinvites-a-team/982162/11 "2023-04-05T16:06:05Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#): > > The conference does have teams in Oregon and Washington, but still, the cross-border excursion and the extra miles may have been an issue. It looks like all of full members are in Texas and surrounding areas. In 2022, Central Washington, Simon Fraser, and Western Oregon joined on as affiliate teams for football, since the rest of their conference (Great Northwest Athletic) did not play football. So SFU has only been part of the conference for a year before being removed.