# NCAAF - The College Football Thread for 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 3, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685 "2018-09-03T13:03:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/222 "2018-11-18T05:13:48Z")

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Urban Meyer might be done after this year - the little punk can’t handle accountability and the possibility of 2 losses in a season.

> **[As Ohio State escapes, Urban Meyer's health back in question after another...](https://sports.yahoo.com/ohio-state-says-urban-meyer-fine-appearing-visibly-shaken-maryland-game-221253348.html)**
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> Ohio State survived Maryland, but Urban Meyer's pained expressions underscored bigger issues about his future on the sideline.

This is it, Buckeyes. Enjoy your title in 2014/15. Meyer’s out. He can’t handle not being champion. He’ll leave your program a mess and then the guy who comes in will get the blame. Have fun, Buckey Bros!!!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/223 "2018-11-18T07:17:37Z")

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Wow, the Cougars got 55 points in the first half and finished with 69. 7 different TD passes to 6 different receivers. Gardner Minshew broke a Washington State record, most passes in a single game in school history. Final score, 69-28 over Arizona.  
Hopefully the committee will notice this game. They were on fire in all three phases. They even got a touchdown from a muffed kickoff return.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/224 "2018-11-18T16:25:36Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Urban Meyer might be done after this year - the little punk can’t handle accountability and the possibility of 2 losses in a season.
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> [Ohio State's Urban Meyer visibly shaken on sideline - Yahoo Sports](https://sports.yahoo.com/ohio-state-says-urban-meyer-fine-appearing-visibly-shaken-maryland-game-221253348.html)
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> This is it, Buckeyes. Enjoy your title in 2014/15. Meyer’s out. He can’t handle not being champion. He’ll leave your program a mess and then the guy who comes in will get the blame. Have fun, Buckey Bros!!!

Were it only so.

More likely OSU gets by Michigan on Saturday, defeats Northwestern for the Big Ten title, gets selected for the playoff by committee admirers and then gets squashed by Alabama. Meyer survives.\*

\*he does look like he’s hurting badly in that linked video.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/225 "2018-11-18T16:54:25Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Were it only so.
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> More likely OSU gets by Michigan on Saturday, defeats Northwestern for the Big Ten title, gets selected for the playoff by committee admirers and then gets squashed by Alabama. Meyer survives.\*
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> \*he does look like he’s hurting badly in that linked video.

I would feel kinda bad if something actually did happen to his health, but I also could see him using this to lay the groundwork for quitting at the end of the year. Remember how he left Florida for “health problems,” leaving UF’s program in shambles and reviving the OSU program.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/226 "2018-11-21T23:26:31Z")

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Umass fired their coach , he was given an extension a few months ago.

It was his 2nd stint there.

> **[UMass parts ways with Whipple after 6 seasons](https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25333399/massachusetts-minutemen-mark-whipple-part-ways)**
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> UMass has parted ways with coach Mark Whipple, who, at 61, is in his second stint with the Minutemen.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/227 "2018-11-23T17:58:35Z")

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Big weekend of rivalry games, with the big two being the Iron Bowl and Big Blue vs OSU.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/228 "2018-11-24T18:18:50Z")

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God dammit Harbaugh, show some brains. Run first down , run second down, throw third down just doesn’t work these days against anybody worth a damn.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/229 "2018-11-24T21:25:29Z")

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Did Michigan show up today ? Does not look like it.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/230 "2018-11-24T22:50:53Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Did Michigan show up today ? Does not look like it.

That’s not really fair. They were down 21-19 near the end of the first half (failed 2-pt. conversion). If they hadn’t let The Ohio State University score 17 unanswered points in the third quarter, the score would have been quite close. It just looks bad because of the total points the Buckeyes scored.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/231 "2018-11-24T22:54:18Z")

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So much for everyone’s predicted semifinals. 😃

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/232 "2018-11-25T02:39:14Z")

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Because somebody has to say it:

I don’t care if Notre Dame goes “undefeated”, they’re not playoff material. They’re basically getting beat, except for the fact that USC fumbles the football every time they’re close to the 20 yard line. If Notre Dame wants respect, be like other major programs and join a conference (preferably one with a conference title game) where you’re guaranteed to face at least 1 or 2 stiff tests every year. They could join the Big or the ACC and silence their critics. But no, Notre Dame is “special”.

Well, the way most people remember the Irish’s last playoff appearance was a disaster, with their great linebackers and linemen getting dragged 10 or 15 yards down the field by Eddy Lacy. The country doesn’t want to watch that again. I’d rather watch 1-loss Ohio State or 1-loss Oklahoma than an “undefeated” Irish team. I’d even take a 2-loss Georgia team.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/233 "2018-11-25T03:22:42Z")

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I sometimes wonder how much of Notre Dame’s success comes from playing a bunch of different teams every year. Their opponents don’t get to see them year after year to learn their proclivities and have to rely on just a week of film prep to beat them.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/234 "2018-11-25T03:26:52Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> I sometimes wonder how much of Notre Dame’s success comes from playing a bunch of different teams every year. Their opponents don’t get to see them year after year to learn their proclivities and have to rely on just a week of film prep to beat them.

Their ‘success’ comes from selecting teams to play for television ratings; if they played in a major conference in which there were consistently 2 or 3 solid 8 or 9-team wins against quality opponents, then we’d see how good they really are (or aren’t). Seriously, I think UCF deserves more respect than Notre Dame. Let’s not fall for this scam again.

But hey I’m a nice guy and willing to make a deal: ND can go undefeated and get into the playoff, but if they lose by more than 2 TDs in the first round, then they agree to never enter the playoff again until they join a major conference. Deal?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/235 "2018-11-25T03:50:13Z")

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I mean, I’m not in any way a ND fan, I’d love to see them get rolled by Bama again. But it’s not like they don’t try to schedule quality opponents, sometimes those teams collapse between when the schedule is made and when they play _cough_ FSU _cough_, but they played Michigan and Stanford as well as division winners Pitt and Northwestern this year too.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/236 "2018-11-25T03:56:30Z")

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Relax, some people won’t stop griping until it’s four SEC teams in the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/237 "2018-11-25T04:22:09Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Their ‘success’ comes from selecting teams to play for television ratings; if they played in a major conference in which there were consistently 2 or 3 solid 8 or 9-team wins against quality opponents, then we’d see how good they really are (or aren’t). Seriously, I think UCF deserves more respect than Notre Dame. Let’s not fall for this scam again.

This is complete nonsense. Notre Dame’s schedule is, year after year, stronger than most Div I teams. They don’t schedule three cupcakes like the SEC teams, they don’t play non-Power-5 conference opponents for the most part (this year’s only minor conference team was Ball St.), and based upon pre-season and/or early season viewpoints, having Michigan, Stanford, VaTech, Northwestern, Florida St. and Syracuse on their schedule was certainly a tough sled.

By comparison, the mighty Alabama has played Louisville, Arkansas St., The Ragin’ Cajuns of La-Laf, and The Citadel, along with last-place Tennessee, last-place Arkansas, and hapless Ole Miss. That schedule, compared to the one Notre Dame is playing, is a complete Smörgåsbord of cream puffs. Alabama should be ashamed. Except, of course, that they do that every year, yet manage often to come through in the really tough games. If Notre Dame manages to stay undefeated, they certainly have at least as good a claim to a spot as anyone not named Clemson…

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/238 "2018-11-25T04:38:34Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> This is complete nonsense. Notre Dame’s schedule is, year after year, stronger than most Div I teams. They don’t schedule three cupcakes like the SEC teams, they don’t play non-Power-5 conference opponents for the most part (this year’s only minor conference team was Ball St.), and based upon pre-season and/or early season viewpoints, having Michigan, Stanford, VaTech, Northwestern, Florida St. and Syracuse on their schedule was certainly a tough sled.
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> By comparison, the mighty Alabama has played Louisville, Arkansas St., The Ragin’ Cajuns of La-Laf, and The Citadel, along with last-place Tennessee, last-place Arkansas, and hapless Ole Miss. That schedule, compared to the one Notre Dame is playing, is a complete Smörgåsbord of cream puffs. Alabama should be ashamed. Except, of course, that they do that every year, yet manage often to come through in the really tough games. If Notre Dame manages to stay undefeated, they certainly have at least as good a claim to a spot as anyone not named Clemson…

Wait til ND gets into the playoffs. They’ll probably get into the tunnel and then piss in their pants once they realize it’s Alabama they’re playing and forfeit the game.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/239 "2018-11-25T04:45:05Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> Relax, some people won’t stop griping until it’s four SEC teams in the playoffs.

It took me a while, but I’ve finally come around to the belief that an 8-team playoff would be the ideal number. I thought 4 would be perfect, but seeing some of the machinations the committee goes through year after year to make sure their “favorites” get, well, favored … just make the Power 5 conference championships automatic play-in games.

The only drawback to 8? Here’s what I’d expect: “Well, your Power 5 champions are in, of course. Then a spot for the highest-ranked non-Power 5 team. And you’ve still got a spot for another at-large.”  
“But wouldn’t there be two at-large spots?”  
“Oh, SEC would have 2 teams in every year.”

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/240 "2018-11-25T04:55:00Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Wait til ND gets into the playoffs. They’ll probably get into the tunnel and then piss in their pants once they realize it’s Alabama they’re playing and forfeit the game.

And what are you going to do if Notre Dame beats Alabama? Come in and admit that your opinions are the ravings of a lunatic? :rolleyes:

Not to mention that I don’t see you admitting that your comment about Notre Dame’s strength of schedule was nonsense.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/241 "2018-11-25T05:16:19Z")

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LSU v Texas A&M headed to sixth OT. They seem intent on establishing the weakness of the college format.

If LSU loses, a real interesting possibility begins to shape up. #4 Michigan lost today. #5 Georgia will presumably lose in the SEC Championship. #6 Oklahoma could well lose in the Big-12 Championship game. #7 LSU would have lost. #8 Wash St. lost. This allows either #9 UCF and #10 Ohio St. to move up into the fourth slot.

Do they take an undefeated UCF? Or do they take one-loss Ohio St. (assuming OSU wins the BiG Championship)? They moved UCF ahead of OSU last week; will they UNmove them now that the Buckeyes won the Big Game??

ETA: Overtime #7 coming up.

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