# NCAAF - The College Football Thread for 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 3, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685 "2018-09-03T13:03:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/362 "2018-12-04T13:13:58Z")
well Cher has retired about 7 times so I think Meyer will be back in few years. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/363 "2018-12-04T13:35:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Urban Meyer quits again… > > [Urban Meyer retiring as coach of Ohio State Buckeyes](https://nypost.com/2018/12/04/urban-meyer-retiring-as-coach-of-ohio-state/) And he’ll probably coach somewhere else again when the controversy surrounding his program dies down. Beyond that, he’s probably just bored coaching at Ohio State. He was there for seven years. Won a national title, was in contention for a few others. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/364 "2018-12-04T13:46:18Z")
He could probably go back to the SEC for a job like LSU or Auburn or maybe try the PAC 12 for his next job. Pretty much any school in the top 5 conferences would hire him. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/365 "2018-12-04T13:51:37Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In short, bleating about “PLAYING SOMEONE” makes it clear that you don’t understand the sport and should stop talking. I like fine wine, not a “fine whine”. And in regards to, “should stop talking”, me thinks you gave yourself that user name for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/366 "2018-12-04T14:03:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > But it makes no sense at all to put teams with a loss in before teams that beat everyone in front of them. Personally, I would rather see UCF in there than Oklahoma. This year it shook out that there were 3 clear teams and the fourth was debatable, and I’d have more fun if UCF got in than Oklahoma. Really, it’s just deciding which team gets to get trounced by Alabama, so why not give it to the scrappy, underrepresented team. But strength of schedule should matter. Not just in trying to determine the better of two teams, but because taking SoS out of the determination would just lead to more creampuff scheduling. UCF did indeed beat every team on their schedule, and that’s great for them. But they also have the 104th strength of schedule and didn’t beat a single ranked team. It’s not entirely their fault, but, to me, it shows me that there is scant evidence that they’re the 4th best team in college football. I think Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Georgia would all beat UCF if they played head to head, and I have no problem that Oklahoma got the nod over UCF. Especially in light of Milton’s injury. Oklahoma’s only loss was a 3 pointer to a ranked team. I don’t want to see Western Michigan of 2016 in the playoffs either. But, here in reality, it’s almost whistling into the wind. The real reason the system is set up so that Oklahoma gets the nod over UCF is, to absolutely no ones surprise, money. Oklahoma travels better, has a larger fan base, and will cause more money to be spent. It’s certainly not fair, but until the NCAA gets blown up, it’s what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/367 "2018-12-04T14:44:45Z")
Rating a team with a weak schedule is like giving loan to someone with no credit. Maybe they’re really good. They’re probably not terrible if they’re undefeated, but you just don’t have evidence that they’re a great team if they haven’t been challenged. You’re not punishing them for being cowards or padding their resume because they don’t get to pick their opponents every year. But putting an untested team in the playoffs is risking a really lopsided game that may turn off some college football fans. That being said, I’m really curious how UCF in particular would do against a quality opponent. I’ve seen some really good players get drafted into the NFL lately from that school so they seem to be good at recruiting/developing talent. I think they’d be worth a gamble. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/368 "2018-12-04T14:47:38Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > And he’ll probably coach somewhere else again when the controversy surrounding his program dies down. Beyond that, he’s probably just bored coaching at Ohio State. He was there for seven years. Won a national title, was in contention for a few others. The Zach Smith controversy blew over in September. I haven’t heard a peep about that since Urban returned from his suspension. Seems this is health related, but that was the case when he left Florida, too. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/369 "2018-12-04T15:23:02Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That being said, I’m really curious how UCF in particular would do against a quality opponent. I’ve seen some really good players get drafted into the NFL lately from that school so they seem to be good at recruiting/developing talent. I think they’d be worth a gamble. You’ll get that chance as UCF will play LSU in the Fiesta Bowl. It’s a shame they won’t have their starting QB though. UCF has proven itself multiple times. They beat an 11-1 Baylor team in the Fiesta Bowl following the 2013 season. They beat Auburn in the Peach Bowl last year. That said, I don’t believe UCF belongs in the playoff due to the conference that they play in and their lack of quality wins this year. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/370 "2018-12-04T15:50:18Z")
The argument about undefeated teams from lesser conferences is decades old. It has no good solution besides an expanded playoff bracket. UCF deserves a chance, but in a four-team playoff, will never get it. They can commiserate with Toledo, ASU, Tulane, Utah, Boise St., and TCU. And that’s just going back 50 years; go look up 1943 Purdue. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/371 "2018-12-04T16:13:46Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > UCF did indeed beat every team on their schedule, and that’s great for them. But they also have the 104th strength of schedule and didn’t beat a single ranked team. It’s not entirely their fault, but, to me, it shows me that there is scant evidence that they’re the 4th best team in college football. I agree. But that only makes sense if you disregard 2017, when they beat four ranked teams (there are only seven different starters between offense and defense from last year to this year). There’s plenty of nonsense about how “it’s only about this year,” but if you are objectively trying to decide who the best teams are it makes no sense to exclude last year’s results from the calculus. Otherwise, Clemson - whose SOS is virtually indistinguishable from UCF’s - wouldn’t be in the top 4. For the record, I actually don’t think it’s hugely unfair that UCF is not in the top 4. I do think it’s ridiculous that they are ranked behind two _two-loss_ teams, including one which couldn’t even win its own division. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/372 "2018-12-04T16:59:13Z")
From twitter: Liberty, a Christian university, (founded by Jerry Falwell) reportedly is interested in hiring Hugh Freeze, who got Ole Miss on probation and ultimately resigned because he violated a morals clause in his contract - he was caught calling hookers. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/373 "2018-12-04T17:26:46Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > He could probably go back to the SEC for a job like LSU or Auburn or maybe try the PAC 12 for his next job. Pretty much any school in the top 5 conferences would hire him. He’ll sit out a year and then go to USC. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/374 "2018-12-04T17:35:33Z")
there are always power 5 coaching jobs opening up so he may sit out more than a year . Or he might just decide to do TV from now on which pays well and is a very low stress job. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/375 "2018-12-04T22:24:10Z")
new Ohio State coach Ryan Day has never been a permanent head coach. He got a 5 year deal at $4.5 mil per year. He will get a nice buyout when he’s fired in 3 years. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/376 "2018-12-04T23:11:13Z")
So, it seems the Heisman is between Tua Tagovailoa and Kyler Murray. Living in Hawaii, obviously pulling for Tua. It seems he has two knocks, after being the front-runner all season. 1. QB with unreal talent around him. His line, RBs, WRs and Defense are all 5-star recruits. It’s like setting your NCAA Playstation to all 99s. I happen to agree: he went down and the (very talented) back-up was able to plug in and win the SEC. 2. He had a poor showing against Georgia. I don’t think this should be a negative. The Bulldogs are the #4 team in the nation playing in their home state. I imagine it’s somewhat harder to excel in that scenario. I think back to Pickett at Gettysburg “I’ve always thought the Yankees had something to do with it”. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/377 "2018-12-05T11:07:24Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > He’ll sit out a year and then go to USC. He’ll sit out a year and then go to a team that can offer him serious money and win now. USC’s a good candidate. LSU might be another, but USC’s probably more attractive as he’d have a chance to dominate a power 5 conference, which is less likely in Nick Saban’s SEC. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/378 "2018-12-05T14:41:26Z")
the trend now is for top NFL draft picks to skip their teams bowl games if they are a senior or going pro early. Makes sense since all but the 3 playoff games are meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/379 "2018-12-05T14:59:00Z")
All college football games are meaningless, when you look at it like that. It makes sense because the players are risking losing millions of dollars by putting themselves at risk of injury for free. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/380 "2018-12-07T22:47:10Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > From twitter: > > Liberty, a Christian university, (founded by Jerry Falwell) reportedly is interested in hiring Hugh Freeze, who got Ole Miss on probation and ultimately resigned because he violated a morals clause in his contract - he was caught calling hookers. and Liberty did hire the fan of hookers. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685/381 "2018-12-10T16:33:32Z")
His introductory speech was [comedy gold](https://deadspin.com/hugh-freeze-jesus-christ-is-the-only-one-ive-ever-m-1830947007). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncaaf-the-college-football-thread-for-2018/820685.md?page=20)