# Ncis 5/20 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 21, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073 "2008-05-21T04:59:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/1 "2008-05-21T04:59:38Z")
Is it going to be worth watching next season? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * with a whole new team? ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/2 "2008-05-21T09:24:49Z")
It worked for House. Why not for Gibbs? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/3 "2008-05-21T09:39:28Z")
Interesting point … when I moused over your thread title in the Cafe Society menu, it pulled up the entire OP, including the stuff in the spoiler box. As for your question, I see the final ep as a huge shark gliding under Gibbs. Can he jump it? I dunno. But it shouldn’t take more than one or two eps to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/4 "2008-05-21T11:10:50Z")
Is it really a new team, or are our friends just getting new identities to protect them from the revenge middle-aged Russian women? If it is a whole new team I may not bother to watch. The point of the show is the interactions between the characters, not the crime-solving. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/5 "2008-05-21T11:15:55Z")
I doubt the “new team” will last past the first episode. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/6 "2008-05-21T11:34:30Z")
[QUOTE=picunurse] Is it going to be worth watching next season? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * with a whole new team? [/QUOTE] I added a buffer to avoid the spoiler being revealed during the mouse-over. ---
**Author:** ![PerditaX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@PerditaX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PerditaX)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/7 "2008-05-21T11:43:07Z")
I’m with **RikWriter**. It’s like when Gibbs “retired” for about 2 episodes. The whole team is/was getting bad vibes from Vance. He shredded the page from the confidential personnel file with his name on it. He’s breaking up the team. Clearly, he has an Agenda, and seems to be Up to No Good. I think it’s at least possible that he had something to do with Jenny’s murder and/or is tipping the instigator off. I see Gibbs figuring this out in the first episode, then somehow gathering the team back to take Vance down. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/8 "2008-05-21T11:48:40Z")
[QUOTE=DrFidelius] Is it really a new team, or are our friends just getting new identities to protect them from the revenge middle-aged Russian women? **If it is a whole new team I may not bother to watch. The point of the show is the interactions between the characters, not the crime-solving.** [/QUOTE] (Bolding mine) Yes, exactly so. I don’t particularly care for the guy that’s going to be the new director either. I hope they haven’t ruined this one, there are not many good shows left. And on preview, I sure hope **PerditaX** is correct. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/9 "2008-05-21T12:01:39Z")
I’ll tell ya what, though, I’ll definitely be watching the first few shows of next season! Keep in mind – the only one who’s actually dead is Jenny, who is a character who never really meshed with the others anyway. Abby and Ducky are still around. And Gibbs is not someone to fuck with. They’re not going to mess with a hugely successful show by getting rid of three of the four lead characters. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/10 "2008-05-21T13:52:41Z")
Yeah, I vote with the whole reshuffling the team is a nice dramatic end of season cliffhanger, rather than an announcement that next season will feature Gibbs and a bunch of new agents. I don’t know _how_ they will unscramble Vance’s moves-- I just have no doubt that they will–and I doubt Vance will stay director for long after that. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/11 "2008-05-21T14:45:45Z")
His team clearly announced that their loyalty was to Gibbs not the agency. That could not fly in the face of a new director. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/12 "2008-05-21T14:51:58Z")
You mean they aren’t spinning off a raft of new shows? I was looking forward to NCIS: Carrier, NCIS: Geek Squad, and INCIS: Tel Aviv. ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/13 "2008-05-21T15:51:52Z")
Sorry about the spoiler thing. CSI lost my interest when they had the internal strife with the day guy. You’d think CBS would learn that watchers get attached to the characters and their interactions. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/14 "2008-05-21T16:03:39Z")
Yeah, I don’t see any way they’ll permanently get rid of the team- if they do that, they might as well just cancel the show. I mean, it’s not as if we watch the show for the writing- it’s the characters that keep us interested. That said, I was so glad to see Jenny finally get offed. She never really fit, and I frankly didn’t care about her backstory with Gibbs. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/15 "2008-05-21T16:16:13Z")
I agree with all the theories so far. This is just Gibbs’ retirement rewritten. The only other thing I can think of is that this is one of those “end of contract” cliffhangers–that is, they’re not sure who’s coming back and who isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/16 "2008-05-21T16:50:45Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] I agree with all the theories so far. This is just Gibbs’ retirement rewritten. The only other thing I can think of is that this is one of those “end of contract” cliffhangers–that is, they’re not sure who’s coming back and who isn’t. [/QUOTE] Realistically, wouldn’t Gibbs, Ducky, McGee and maybe even Tony just resign? I mean, McGee is rich from his novels, Gibbs only un-retired for Jenny and his team, Ducky only sticks around for Gibbs and Tony would probably be able to get a job in the FBI or somewhere else he wouldn’t be stuck on a ship for 6 months. ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/17 "2008-05-21T18:58:24Z")
Really. Anyone who actually believes that next season will feature Gibbs and a new team for more than three episodes max, I’ve got this big orange bridge at the entrance to a very nice bay in northern California that I can let you have for a very reasonable price. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/18 "2008-05-21T20:09:27Z")
[QUOTE=Roadfood] Really. Anyone who actually believes that next season will feature Gibbs and a new team for more than three episodes max, I’ve got this big orange bridge at the entrance to a very nice bay in northern California that I can let you have for a very reasonable price. [/QUOTE] Sorry, I already own the Brooklyn Bridge. Also, as long as they keep that hot goth lab chick, I’ll keep watching. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/19 "2008-05-21T20:45:28Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] Sorry, I already own the Brooklyn Bridge. Also, as long as they keep that hot goth lab chick, I’ll keep watching. [/QUOTE] Not me. If Tony goes, I go. He’s the glue that holds that show together for me. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073/20 "2008-05-21T21:50:06Z")
[QUOTE=Lightnin’] I mean, it’s not as if we watch the show for the writing- it’s the characters that keep us interested. [/QUOTE] And as long as they keep showing Cote de Pablo in a bikini I’m totally there. (thinking) She could make an abaya and veil work, as long as I can see her eyes. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-5-20/450073.md?page=2)