# NCIS’ Tony & Ziva Spinoff Series is scheduled **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [March 2, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333 "2024-03-02T00:43:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/1 "2024-03-02T00:43:11Z")
Tony and Ziva were very popular on NCIS. Both characters left the show. Ziva left at the beginning of season 11. Tony stayed through season 13. I’m excited to see this new 10 episode series. It will be an entirely different show. They were investigators on NCIS and the focus was solving killings of Navy and Marine personnel. This time Tony and Ziva are the ones being pursued. Should be a lot of fun and entertaining. > **[‘NCIS’ Tony & Ziva Spinoff Series Starring Michael Weatherly & Cote...](https://deadline.com/2024/02/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-paramount-plus-1235840988/)** > > "Tiva" is back. Paramount+ has given a 10-episode series order to an untitled spinoff headlined by NCIS alums Michael Weatherly and Cote de Pablo. > [@](#): > > “We’ve been talking about this story for many years, and now with John McNamara at the helm, we are ready,” Weatherly and de Pablo said. “The world of Tony and Ziva (and daughter Tali) promises to be an action-packed roller coaster fueled by love, danger, tears and laughter. We also want to acknowledge and thank the fans from around the world who supported the ‘Tiva’ movement for years. To this day, they say hello in grocery stores and on the street to tell us how much these characters mean to them and ask what Tony and Ziva are up to now. This is for you!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/2 "2024-03-02T07:09:47Z")
I haven’t watched _NCIS: TOS_ for years, but I’d watch a spin-off where the ghosts of Michelle Lee and Kate Todd help solve crimes from the Other Side. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/3 "2024-03-02T14:56:20Z")
Mrs. Solost and I had stopped watching before de Pablo left the show. I had heard she left and wondered if they killed off the Ziva character like they did the previous character Tony also had a love / hate flirty relationship with. Guess they didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/4 "2024-03-02T15:46:51Z")
They said Ziva died in season 14 or 15? Cote de Pablo brought Ziva back for a few episodes in season 17. Michael Weatherly did 6 Seasons of _Bull_ since leaving NCIS. I hope they can recapture the chemistry between Ziva and Tony. It’ll be much different without Gibbs and the other characters ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/5 "2024-03-02T15:55:56Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Mrs. Solost and I had stopped watching before de Pablo left the show. I had heard she left and wondered if they killed off the Ziva character like they did the previous character Tony also had a love / hate flirty relationship with. Guess they didn’t. She got better. NCIS is one of those shows I can turn on without having to engage my brain too much. Most shows are so serious it can be an emotional slog to get through even if they are really good otherwise. I can watch NCIS and play on my phone at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/6 "2024-03-08T05:53:43Z")
So how old would Tali be by this point? Maybe 10-ish? I wouldn’t be all that surprised if they just go ahead and age her up to a teenager. Tony and Ziva versus their sullen teenage quip machine is going to be TV gold. Plus, when she is kidnapped (and it’s almost mandatory in a show like this that the child of the main couple be kidnapped), she’d be old enough to really kick some ass as she escapes. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/7 "2025-09-05T03:54:56Z")
Started streaming yesterday I believe, and reports? I was going to watch tonight, but fell asleep in my recliner.😁 It appears that only the first few episodes are included in my Paramount + subscription on Amazon Video. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/8 "2025-09-05T12:22:15Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Started streaming yesterday I believe, and reports? Meh. Action, adventure, international locales, quips & wisecracks, yet it all felt kind of by the numbers and done before. Will we still watch? Probably. Plot-wise, apparently the MacGuffin (magic thumb drive) was a red herring to draw out Ziva, who was the real target…I think? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/9 "2025-09-05T16:43:00Z")
OK, watched those 1st 3… While the leads are as appealing as ever, the flashback-heavy structure is rather offputting–it is pretty difficult to pull that off successfully, and it really isn’t working here, esp. as it requires a different younger actress for their daughter. I also am not a fan of lame wrong accusation plots, esp. given the perfunctory way in which it was laid out. While the female mole/villainness looks to be an intriguing character, my suspension of disbelief often takes a hit when they are able to easily infiltrate a prominent organization far too easily as she has. The soap opera-ish elements I don’t care for either, esp. episode 3’s couple (Tony’s fling and her surprise husband), who turn out to be swingers, leading to some rather awkward moments. The shrink I like (Ziva certainly has had like 5 lifetimes of trauma to deal with), and the show obviously needs to have _some_ mechanism to fill in the viewer on all the stuff which took place after the leads left NCIS (as in what put a wedge between Tony and Ziva), but right now this feels like an expanded and bloated two-parter, meaning the pace is glacial so far. I’ll stick with it for now, but it really needs to wow me at some point. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/10 "2025-09-05T19:08:14Z")
Agents Tony and Ziva had all the resources of NCIS. Now they’re just two people with special training. Ziva also has Mossad training & contacts. The series will have to be different. I hope they can keep it believable. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/11 "2025-09-05T19:19:55Z")
Ziva is Hebrew for gonorrhea. Sure, it’s spelled differently, but come on. There’s a reason no woman has been named that since 1950. I’ve never seen NCIS, but even before I looked it up I knew that the actress wasn’t Israeli, because no Hebrew speaker would agree to that name. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/12 "2025-09-06T13:09:48Z")
_Holy crap_, that would have been one of the LAST words in the English dictionary that I would have guessed. 😟 My suppositions would have included “sparrow”, “moon”, “star”, or “sunrise”… I mean, just how **hard** would it be to check a Hebrew dictionary first (by the original NCIS writers)? Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/13 "2025-09-06T13:18:46Z")
No wonder I always feel compelled to [**clap**](https://www.nurx.com/faq/why-is-gonorrhea-called-the-clap) when I see Ziva on the TV screen. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/14 "2025-09-06T13:43:57Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > _Holy crap_, that would have been one of the LAST words in the English dictionary that I would have guessed. 😟 My suppositions would have included “sparrow”, “moon”, “star”, or “sunrise”… I mean, Ziva IS an old Hebrew name, spelled זיוה, while the disease is spelled זיבה, and technically, the former is pronounced “ZEE-vah” while the latter is pronounced “zee-VAH”, but there’s a reason the name has fallen out of fashion. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/15 "2025-09-06T14:35:53Z")
Wikipedia defines the former as “Radiance, brilliance, light, brightness, light of God”… ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/16 "2025-09-06T15:23:54Z")
I tried watching last night. Paramount tv app was locking up and freezing my screen. None of my other Vizio Apps like Prime, Max, and Peacock have any streaming problems. I’ll try again tonight. I definitely want to watch the show. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/17 "2025-09-07T05:56:49Z")
I watched the 1st and 2nd episode. It’s nice seeing Tony and Ziva again. I’m not thrilled with the heavy emphasis on a super powerful hacking program. There are other ways to put Tony and Ziva in danger. They have made many enemies throughout their careers. Have they announced the number of episodes? I’m not interested in seeing this story with them being chased dragged out for very long. Certainly not for multiple seasons. I’ll keep watching. Maybe it will get more interesting. Something better than cars programmed to kill Tony. Michael Weatherly has resurrected Tony and left behind Bull. I wasn’t sure Michael could pull off a action character at 57. Cote de Pablo needs more work to bring back Ziva. I don’t see the confidence, intensity, and spark that made Ziva interesting on NCIS. Ziva was like juggling a .357 magnum with the safety off. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/18 "2025-09-07T14:52:26Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I tried watching last night. Paramount tv app was locking up and freezing my screen. Yeah, the Paramount app on our Firestick is terrible. It freezes up; when it does work, sometimes the fast forward, reverse and caption controls randomly become inoperable. When FF and reverse DO work, they go so fast you blow right by the place you wanted to go to. Often if I stop a movie or show in the middle and start it up later, it starts at the beginning again. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for them to build a working app. The Netflix and Hulu apps generally work flawlessly. One fix I found when the Paramount app is freezing up (this is Firestick-specific, so YMMV) is to go to ‘settings —\> manage applications —\> Paramount app’ and choose ‘force stop’ and ‘clear cache’. That seems to set it right for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/19 "2025-09-07T15:16:55Z")
Thanks for the tip. Vizio hates Paramount. My tv locked up twice watching Tony & Ziva. Had to go into admin menu and reboot the tv. I think Tony and Ziva are more interesting when they are flirting and not together. It’s hard imagining Ziva as a normal spouse to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333/20 "2025-09-07T15:40:36Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Ziva is Hebrew for gonorrhea. > > Sure, it’s spelled differently, but come on. There’s a reason no woman has been named that since 1950. My grandma’s best friend was named that, I do think she was born before 1950 though (afaik she was the same age as my grandma who was born in the British Mandate era). I’m wracking my brain trying to think of a younger Ziva but all I can think of is Ziv which is a gender neutral name as of the 90s. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-is-scheduled/998333.md?page=2)