# Neal Boortz, shut up!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 27, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429 "2009-07-27T14:28:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/61 "2009-07-28T09:06:15Z")

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**Vinyl Turnip** , I don’t know your permanent location, but you have all of the wit and incisiveness of an Alabama boy. I went to that big rockety place in Huntsville and snapped [this photo](http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevetalkowski/2558794036/). Gotcha!

/hijack

I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/62 "2009-07-28T10:47:16Z")

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The only advice I have for the OP is to do what I do when I allow my husband his two hours a week to watch the Discovery channel: hum show tunes.

If that’s not your thing hum Black Eyed Peas songs or the latest Jonas Brothers ditty. If you really get into it, you won’t notice the latest theory on Rommel’s march to the desert or even that gasbag on the radio.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/63 "2009-07-28T15:37:11Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Jesus Christ, I thought people like you were a myth.

If they were, how would Boortz get a show?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/64 "2009-07-28T16:37:31Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> **Vinyl Turnip** , I don’t know your permanent location, but you have all of the wit and incisiveness of an Alabama boy.

Thank you. I’ve also been told that I don’t sweat that much for a fat girl.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/65 "2009-07-28T16:43:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Proof positive that **Rand Rover** has been fucking **curlcoat** again.

I started to pop in here yesterday and say “I thought curlcoat doesn’t have any kids!”.

😛

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/66 "2009-07-28T17:33:34Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> I find it funny that there are even gold commercials during the Dave Ramsey show (but he is not the salesman) when he rips gold as being a lousy investment in his show.

You also hear debt consolidation ads. Dave doesn’t have any control over what commercials the local radio stations air during his show. If I were advertising a debt consolidation program, the one place I would NOT advertise is during Dave’s show, because he is very vocal about his disapproval of such products. You’re not going to reach the right listeners.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/67 "2009-07-28T19:21:40Z")

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It’s interesting that Boortz would choose to compare Muslims to cockroaches. That’s what the Hutus were calling the Tutsis in the lead up the the Rwandan genocide. Interesting that Boortz would choose that specific way to dehumanize a group of people.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/68 "2009-07-28T20:32:25Z")

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> [@SSG\_Schwartz](#):
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> The thing you have to realize is that Neal _IS_ the joke. He is a radio version of Stephen Colbert.

Due respect, but this doesn’t really work as an analogy. Colbert’s “Stephen Colbert” character is pure satire, portraying pretty much the polar opposite of Colbert’s actual beliefs and ideology.

Boortz, meanwhile, presents a slightly exaggerated version of himself. Yes, he advises (or used to, at any rate) that he is merely an entertainer and that nothing he says is to be believed without independent confirmation, and he occasionally floats a bullshit story to underscore that point. But it’s clear the vitriol he spews against Obama, the Clintons, Democrats in general, “government” schools, etc. ad nauseum is something he truly feels, as is the naked admiration he holds for the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity.

Of course I could be wrong: he might be the Greatest Troll of All Time, an infiltrator of the highest order, an undercover “made man” at the highest echelon of _La Cosa Nostra a Destra_, and Andy Kaufman might be gyrating his sequinned hips in his grave… but I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/69 "2009-07-28T22:58:01Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> If they were, how would Boortz get a show?

I didn’t realize that anybody actually takes that kind of rhetoric SERIOUSLY. I mean, I guess I did know that on some level, but I honestly didn’t realize that they had opposable thumbs and could therefore post on the Internet.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/70 "2009-07-29T03:25:40Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> You also hear debt consolidation ads. Dave doesn’t have any control over what commercials the local radio stations air during his show. If I were advertising a debt consolidation program, the one place I would NOT advertise is during Dave’s show, because he is very vocal about his disapproval of such products. You’re not going to reach the right listeners.

You might, if you’re trying to reach people in need of debt consolidation.

At least, that would appear to be the thinking of the advertisers.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/71 "2009-07-29T21:07:36Z")

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> [@Ca3799](#):
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> Of course I object. Describing a whole city of people as a bunch of useless, worthless parasites who sit on their fat asses and collect welfare checks is not objectionable to you and seems like an accurate assessment to you?

Actually fairly accurate. It’s not the entire city, but most of it.

SWMBO is originally from New Orleans and still has family there. When we go over to visit, we get caught up on the latest doings. When we told them about the family that I mentioned, it sparked a conversation that lasted well over an hour about the fundamental problem in NOLA - people would rather draw welfare than work, and the state won’t cut them off.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/72 "2009-07-29T21:15:06Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Actually fairly accurate. It’s not the entire city, but most of it.
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> SWMBO is originally from New Orleans and still has family there. When we go over to visit, we get caught up on the latest doings. When we told them about the family that I mentioned, it sparked a conversation that lasted well over an hour about the fundamental problem in NOLA - people would rather draw welfare than work, and the state won’t cut them off.

Well, if your family had a conversation about it, then it _must_ be true. You’ve shown yourself to be such a perspicacious analyst of American society that i can only wonder at the deep and nuanced discussions you have with the other cro-magnons in your kinship group.

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**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/73 "2009-07-29T21:17:14Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Well, if your family had a conversation about it, then it _must_ be true. You’ve shown yourself to be such a perspicacious analyst of American society that i can only wonder at the deep and nuanced discussions you have with the other cro-magnons in your kinship group.

How dare you slander the good name of cro-magnons!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neal-boortz-shut-up/504429/74 "2009-07-29T22:21:13Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> SWMBO is originally from New Orleans and still has family there. When we go over to visit, we get caught up on the latest doings. When we told them about the family that I mentioned, it sparked a conversation that lasted well over an hour about the fundamental problem in NOLA - people would rather draw welfare than work, and the state won’t cut them off.

Were any of the people in the room the same ones who collected welfare and refused to work? Or was this just the consensus opinion of a group of people who had never actually met a person on welfare, but were nontheless convinced they are all so lazy they would never consider working?

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