# need a good one liner relating to politics

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 21, 2013, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888 "2013-01-21T07:10:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/41 "2013-01-27T22:02:50Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> I was going by the numbers used earlier by msmith. Perhaps she was wrong about the projected 1.5 trillion from the tax increase too, because from your numbers that would more than wipe out the deficit.

See **Stratocaster** ’s post. We are running a deficit of $1.1 trillion _per year_. Obama wants (again) to raise taxes by $1.5 trillion over _ten years_.

Again, the professor is correct. The tax increase will not eliminate the deficit, and therefore cannot possibly reduce the national debt.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/42 "2013-01-28T02:32:27Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> See **Stratocaster** ’s post. We are running a deficit of $1.1 trillion _per year_. Obama wants (again) to raise taxes by $1.5 trillion over _ten years_.
> 
> Again, the professor is correct. The tax increase will not eliminate the deficit, and therefore cannot possibly reduce the national debt.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Thanks for the clarification about it being over ten years. You are still giving the professor too much credit, though - if he’d said what you’re saying, he’d be right, or at least it’d be debatable, but the words the OP quoted were rather different.

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**Author:** ![bonnerfide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bonnerfide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonnerfide)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/43 "2014-03-05T17:02:33Z")

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As for a one liner:

“Politics makes strange bedfellows”.  
I think we ALL know this and shouldn’t be surprised by what the prospect of power can do to people. Just choose to live honestly, treat people well and good things will come to you.

PS:. @msmith537 The info for that link that you posted is not found at [smashingtops.com](http://smashingtops.com/career-2/harvard-business-school-top-employers/)

> [@msmith537](#):
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> Yes, Marxists who go on to work at such hot beds of socalism like:  
> McKinsey  
> Goldman Sachs  
> The Boston Consulting Group  
> Bain & Company  
> Morgan Stanley  
> Merrill Lynch  
> etc. etc…  
> [HBS Recruiting Homepage](http://www.hbs.edu/recruiting/alumni/employers.html)

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**Author:** ![bonnerfide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bonnerfide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonnerfide)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/44 "2014-03-10T12:36:54Z")

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Quick correction…  
@msmith537: The information for that link you mentioned is NOW found at [http://smashingtops.com/career-2/har...top-employers/](http://smashingtops.com/career-2/har...top-employers/)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/45 "2014-03-10T12:55:40Z")

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> [@bonnerfide](#):
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> As for a one liner:
> 
> “Politics makes strange bedfellows”.

It’s over a year later and the OP has been banned. I think this is taking _esprit d’escalier_ a bit far.

And the one-liner you propose doesn’t even address the original question.

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**Author:** ![bonnerfide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bonnerfide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonnerfide)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/46 "2014-03-10T13:21:47Z")

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Gyrate:  
Well clearly I misread the question…and that’s fine. It’s called human error.  
As for the issue at hand, I don’t have an issue with our President’s desire to see the deficit decrease. I think ALL Presidents of the modern era have tried to make that happen. NOR do I have an issue with his desire to see the rich pay additional taxes to make it happen. Truth be told, we both know that the government is set up in a way that isn’t designed to bring economic equality to all. Not to mention, the consistent partisan bickering won’t allow the President to pass much anyway to even effectively address this issue.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/47 "2014-03-10T14:28:30Z")

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> [@bonnerfide](#):
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> I don’t have an issue with our President’s desire to see the deficit decrease. I think ALL Presidents of the modern era have tried to make that happen. NOR do I have an issue with his desire to see the rich pay additional taxes to make it happen.

You might want to read the thread again, but more closely. The OP was complaining that his professor told him that increasing taxes on the rich would not make the deficit disappear, nor would it reduce the national debt.

The problem is that this statement is true. Increasing taxes on the rich to levels that Obama and Co. suggested will not eliminate the deficit nor reduce the national debt. Making the rich pay additional taxes will **not** “make it happen”.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/48 "2014-03-10T14:39:20Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> You might want to read the thread again, but more closely. The OP was complaining that his professor told him that increasing taxes on the rich would not make the deficit disappear, nor would it reduce the national debt.
> 
> The problem is that this statement is true. Increasing taxes on the rich \*\*to levels that Obama and Co. suggested \*\*will not eliminate the deficit nor reduce the national debt. Making the rich pay additional taxes will **not** “make it happen”.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

So your argument appears to be that Obama and Co. aren’t increasing taxes on the rich _enough_, since you’ve seen fit to add that caveat.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/49 "2014-03-10T14:53:42Z")

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My argument is that the statement contained in the OP is true and correct. Eliminating the deficit should be done mostly by spending cuts, so please try not to put words in my mouth.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-good-one-liner-relating-to-politics/647888/50 "2014-03-10T15:56:55Z")

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Anyone feel free to start a new discussion about this with a new thread, more than likely in Great Debates.  
This one is slightly old, has an OP that is now banned, and is mostly no longer relevant…so I’m going to close it.

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