# Need a Wedding Shower Present? Book teaches Muslim men how to beat and control their wives. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 25, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780 "2012-03-25T19:49:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/1 "2012-03-25T19:49:39Z")
Charming book huh? Well at least the reader is instructed not to beat their wives excessively. :rolleyes: I can’t imagine being trapped in a marriage with one of these Lotharios. We used to have a lot of wealthy Arab students at my old university. This was before 9/11. They all drove hot sport cars and some of the most gorgeous girls on campus were dating them. Good luck with that ladies. They seemed like nice enough guys at school. I tutored several in computer science classes. > [@](#): > > In the book’s opening pages, it is written that “it might be necessary to restrain her with strength or even to threaten her.” > > Later, its author advises that “the husband should treat the wife with kindness and love, _even if she tends to be stupid and slow sometimes_.” > [@](#): > > In terms of physical punishment, the book advises that a husband may scold her, “beat by hand or stick,” withhold money from her or “pull (her) by the ears,” but should “refrain from beating her _excessively_.” > **[Book tells Muslim men how to beat and control their wives](https://torontosun.com/2012/03/23/book-tells-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives)** > > A local bookstore has “sold out” of a controversial marriage guide that advises Muslim men on how to beat their wives. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/2 "2012-03-25T22:44:39Z")
As requested by the OP, this thread will probably fare better in MPSIMS. IMHO - \> MPSIMS - Gukumatz, Game Room & IMHO Moderator ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/3 "2012-03-25T23:04:53Z")
Thanks Gukumatz. Since posting, I googled and confirmed this is a real book for sale. But out it’s of stock. The recent news probably boosted sales a lot. ---
**Author:** ![truthbot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@truthbot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthbot)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/4 "2012-03-26T00:09:38Z")
I may be a stoopid and slow wooman, but my daddy taught me where the nutsack is. I’m all over it. With my bony knee. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/5 "2012-03-26T01:09:53Z")
Only Arabic men beat women! But the men are rich, so all the pretty girls like it. Yay, racism! Yay, sexism! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/6 "2012-03-26T01:27:07Z")
To put this in perspective, a current Cracked [article](http://www.cracked.com/article_19721_the-5-creepiest-progressive-parenting-fads_p2.html) talks about the book _To Train Up a Child_ by Michael and Debi Pearl. That book offers helpful advice like: _“Select your instrument according to the child’s size. For the under 1 year old, a little, 10- to 12-inch-long willowy branch (striped [sic] of any knots that might break the skin) about one-eighth inch in diameter is sufficient.”_ This book is apparently popular with some Christians. But I imagine there are non-religious people buying both books. Being an abusive asshole takes all kinds. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/7 "2012-03-26T01:31:40Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > As requested by the OP, this thread will probably fare better in MPSIMS. > > IMHO - \> MPSIMS > > - Gukumatz, > Game Room & IMHO Moderator Really? I can think of a much better place for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/8 "2012-03-26T12:22:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > To put this in perspective, a current Cracked [article](http://www.cracked.com/article_19721_the-5-creepiest-progressive-parenting-fads_p2.html) talks about the book _To Train Up a Child_ by Michael and Debi Pearl. That book offers helpful advice like: _“Select your instrument according to the child’s size. For the under 1 year old, a little, 10- to 12-inch-long willowy branch (striped [sic] of any knots that might break the skin) about one-eighth inch in diameter is sufficient.”_ > > This book is apparently popular with some Christians. But I imagine there are non-religious people buying both books. Being an abusive asshole takes all kinds. Sure, except that the article quotes someone who refers to the author of the book as a “prominent Islamic scholar”, while the people who wrote that parenting book are some lunatics nobody’s heard of. But yeah, all cultures and religions believe the same stuff and treat women exactly the same. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/9 "2012-03-26T14:15:13Z")
> [@Shmendrik](#): > > Sure, except that the article quotes someone who refers to the author of the book as a “prominent Islamic scholar”, while the people who wrote that parenting book are some lunatics nobody’s heard of. The parenting book is quite popular amongst the fundamental Christian sect, and at least one child’s death is being attributed to it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/10 "2012-03-26T14:24:41Z")
> [@Shmendrik](#): > > Sure, except that the article quotes someone who refers to the author of the book as a “prominent Islamic scholar”, while the people who wrote that parenting book are some lunatics nobody’s heard of. But yeah, all cultures and religions believe the same stuff and treat women exactly the same. And you think five hundred million Muslim men beat their wives? _A Gift For the Muslim Couple_ is probably no more mainstream than _To Train Up a Child_. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/11 "2012-03-26T14:44:27Z")
I have to wonder how many copies of both books were purchased by people for the entertainment value of reading something written by total whack-a-loons, or as gag gifts for new parents/newlyweds. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/12 "2012-03-26T15:10:33Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Only Arabic men beat women! But the men are rich, so all the pretty girls like it. > > Yay, racism! Yay, sexism! When your doctor checks the reflexes in your knee, has it ever resulted in a fatality? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/13 "2012-03-26T15:16:03Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Only Arabic men beat women! But the men are rich, so all the pretty girls like it. > > Yay, racism! Yay, sexism! You seem to be doing this more and more. It’s a pretty stupid game, FYI. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/14 "2012-03-28T19:19:54Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > You seem to be doing this more and more. It’s a pretty stupid game, FYI. Do not taunt a Social Justice Warrior. It never ends well. ---
**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/15 "2012-03-28T21:06:16Z")
> [@truthbot](#): > > I may be a stoopid and slow wooman, but my daddy taught me where the nutsack is. I’m all over it. With my bony knee. I’ll be nice and let him choose what he wants to put in his coffee: I got drain cleaner, battery acid, and anti-freeze. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/16 "2012-03-28T21:36:32Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > When your doctor checks the reflexes in your knee, has it ever resulted in a fatality? Well, just that one time. But, it was an accident,I swear! and he was wearing a hoodie at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-a-wedding-shower-present-book-teaches-muslim-men-how-to-beat-and-control-their-wives/616780/17 "2012-03-29T07:03:11Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Really? I can think of a much better place for this thread. sssssooooon…