# Need adult tricycle with child seat. Urgent help needed. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 15, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003 "2008-10-15T03:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/21 "2008-10-16T00:28:08Z")
> [@Panurge](#): > > If you have the money, I highly recommend a [Christiania Bicycle](http://www.christianiabikes.com/). We have had one for a year and are extremely pleased with it. If the child is very young, you can mount a car seat in the box, and later the child can use the built-in seat + seatbelts. [The Nihola Bike](http://www.nihola.info/) is popular here as well, but I prefer the Christiania bike. I really like Christiania bikes. I see lots of them in CPH, but unfortunately (although I’ll be back in DK in December) I cannot bring one. On top of that I need one like, now! > [@scr4](#): > > Anyway, since handlebar-mounted child seats [like this](http://www.amazon.com/iBert-Safe-T-Front-Mounted-Bicycle/dp/B000H4E7EO) are sold in the US, I don’t see why the Christiania would not be allowed. I bought that and a trike. The seat will only be good for a few months, by then I hope I will have something else worked out. Too bad I can’t bring a bike from Denmark. It would end up costing me the same as a used car. ---
**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/22 "2008-10-16T18:47:31Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Not a cite, but if there’s no seatbelt or tethering system in that box, I wouldn’t expect it to pass muster. Can’t tell if the kids in the picture are belted in or not. Passengers have to be belted, and the various cargo bike manufacturers here all provide seatbelt solutions, all of which have to maintain EU standards (actually they have to maintain Danish standards, which I think are higher anyway). > [@bordelond](#): > > … > **Panurge** , don’t forget that medical bills can cause an American family considerable financial hardship. The following is an assumption of mine, based on a further assumption that Denmark has universal government-sponsored healthcare: > > If a kid falls out of a Christiana bike in Denmark and injures his head on the pavement, the child’s family will be grief-stricken but they won’t have a significant financial burden for which they will seek redress. If that same kid is American, the family may well sue the company and win damages to cover the child’s medical costs plus pain & suffering, etc. Maybe a typical Danish family wouldn’t go straight to a lawyer, but many American families would. Your argument about healthcare is technically valid, I guess, but as I mentioned above seatbelts are mandatory, and I have yet to hear of an accident involving someone falling out of the box. The cargo bike is seen as a safe and reliable means of transportation here - even the kindergartens use them all the time. > [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > I really like Christiania bikes. I see lots of them in CPH, but unfortunately (although I’ll be back in DK in December) I cannot bring one. On top of that I need one like, now! > > I bought that and a trike. The seat will only be good for a few months, by then I hope I will have something else worked out. > > Too bad I can’t bring a bike from Denmark. It would end up costing me the same as a used car. They are indeed expensive (though nowhere near as expensive as even the crappiest used car around here) and shipping costs would be very high I guess. It sounds like you have found a solution already - I really hope it works out. (Going to Denmark, eh? You got me thinking about trying to organize a Danish December Dopefest - could be kinda fun I think) ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/23 "2008-10-17T02:42:33Z")
> [@Panurge](#): > > They are indeed expensive (though nowhere near as expensive as even the crappiest used car around here) and shipping costs would be very high I guess. It sounds like you have found a solution already - I really hope it works out. > (Going to Denmark, eh? You got me thinking about trying to organize a Danish December Dopefest - could be kinda fun I think) Shipping will indeed make it extraordinarily expensive. A Danish Dopefest… Great idea. Where in DK are you? ---
**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/24 "2008-10-17T07:15:10Z")
Hmm - I must have lost the “Location” field when my subscription stopped. I am in Copenhagen, but I have no idea how many other dopers there are in Denmark or where they are… ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/25 "2008-10-17T12:18:12Z")
> [@Panurge](#): > > **They are indeed expensive** (though nowhere near as expensive as even the crappiest used car around here) and shipping costs would be very high I guess. This might be the clincher as to why Christiania has apparently actively declined to sell bikes in the U.S. Since bikes aren’t considered a “real” means of transportation like a car or motorcycle, the price for them is deflated in the American market. The Christiana bikes probably can’t be manufactured, shipped, and sold for Wal-Mart-level prices – $150 (approx. 750-800 kr) at best for this kind of product – and break even. Could you even buy a _used_ Christiania in Denmark for 800 kr? ---
**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/26 "2008-10-17T13:34:33Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Could you even buy a _used_ Christiania in Denmark for 800 kr? Not a chance. A new one (including seat, seatbelt, fancy breaks & gears, etc.) will set you back around 15000 kr ($2700), and since they are extraordinarily sturdy (and quite popular) you would have to pay at least half of that for a 5-year old one. I guess if I were in the States I could get a car for that kind of money 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/27 "2008-10-17T14:21:31Z")
> [@Panurge](#): > > Not a chance. A new one (including seat, seatbelt, fancy breaks & gears, etc.) will set you back around 15000 kr ($2700), and since they are extraordinarily sturdy (and quite popular) you would have to pay at least half of that for a 5-year old one. I guess if I were in the States I could get a car for that kind of money 🙂 Yeah … you could get a “beater” (an old car that runs, but is often in need of repair) for $1350. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003/28 "2008-10-17T18:40:36Z")
> [@Panurge](#): > > Hmm - I must have lost the “Location” field when my subscription stopped. I am in Copenhagen, but I have no idea how many other dopers there are in Denmark or where they are.. I will be in Fynn and CPH. I’ll also spend some time Sweden. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-adult-tricycle-with-child-seat-urgent-help-needed/468003.md?page=1)