# Need Advice about REALLY Skeevy Guy, kids might be in danger **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 9, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238 "2004-07-09T04:56:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/61 "2004-07-10T23:22:31Z")
Maybe instead of the police you should speak to the FBI. He has crossed state lines. Do you have a picture of him you can take to the cops? ---
**Author:** ![SuperNova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SuperNova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNova)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/62 "2004-07-10T23:50:47Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Do you have a picture of him you can take to the cops? I wonder what his reaction would be if he ever saw you take a picture of him… ---
**Author:** ![35340](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/8baadc/32.png) [@35340](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/35340)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/63 "2004-07-11T04:35:27Z")
> [@SuperNova](#): > > I wonder what his reaction would be if he ever saw you take a picture of him… Scan a print from Motel Security cameras … ---
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/64 "2004-07-11T05:30:07Z")
**lezlers** , make sure he isn’t one of these: [America’s Most Wanted](http://www.amw.com/fugitives/) ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/65 "2004-07-11T05:50:01Z")
[Here](http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/420531.pdf) (requires Acrobat) is the form you can use to request info on those Washington license plates. Bizarre story. Most of what I get out of the tale has already been posted by others. If the $50K is really in the bank, it seems most likely that it is some sort of illegal gain. If the house is real, drugs seem the most likely candidate for the source. But who knows? Mind you, neither may truly exist, in which case we’re back to basic con. If the rather guileless woman involved truly has no assets to be plundered, my best guess is that this is a guy on the run from somebody who figures suddenly being a family man will help him jump identities. As previously noted, it seems likely that the name you’ve heard isn’t the one he was born to. > [@lezlers](#): > > He asked her to _give him a couple of weeks_… That sounds to me like he’s hinted at when the weirdness will ramp up. ---
**Author:** ![Vevila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@Vevila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vevila)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/66 "2004-07-11T17:53:48Z")
By any chance is it this guy? [http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/07/10/midwest.swindle.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/07/10/midwest.swindle.ap/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/67 "2004-07-11T18:03:55Z")
Alright everyone, friend just took off, she ended up staying over. I showed her this thread, but she only read the first couple of posts. I gave her a pretty detailed synopsis, however. I believe the husband knows. Husband has been repeatedly calling sister’s cell phone saying things like “If I can’t have you, nobody will.” The girls are staying with him this weekend so I imagine there’s quite an interrogation happening. I’ve got little doubt he’ll know everything by the time the weekend is over. Friend and I took a little drive yesterday to see the new house. They couldn’t possibly be more secluded. Beautiful house, _way_ out in the sticks. There seems to be some trouble with sale, though. The seller said he needed time to subdivide the property, Mr. Wonderful offered 10K more in cash for seller to get out w/in 2 weeks. House is in Mr. Wonderful’s name. Or going to be. There were still signs all over the place saying it was for sale, so I’m not sure how far along they are in the purchase. And as far as the 50K goes, turns out he put it into a bank account and listed sisters name and social security number on it so she’d have access. He didn’t put it directly into her account. And friend had told the 14 year old to call her immediately if _anything_ funky went down. I don’t really know what else to post. I told friend about the drugs theory, she hadn’t thought about that. It appears as if there’s nothing more to do at this point but wait, see if this house thing actually goes down. ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/68 "2004-07-11T19:20:14Z")
I think “All my Children” just found their next plot line. Needs more sex though. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/69 "2004-07-11T19:49:50Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > I don’t really know what else to post. I told friend about the drugs theory, she hadn’t thought about that. It appears as if there’s nothing more to do at this point but wait, see if this house thing actually goes down. Well… if the property really transfers then you’ve something to investigage as it will be recorded in the county deed recordation office under a specific buyers name. It might be interesting to call the listing agent (if listed with a Realtor) and request info on the house, and what it’s availability status is. The agent obviously can’t (and shouldn’t) tell you any private particulars of the specific deal, but they can indicate if it is really under contract, and give you listing details . ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/70 "2004-07-11T20:58:23Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > I believe the husband knows. Husband has been repeatedly calling sister’s cell phone saying things like “If I can’t have you, nobody will.” :eek: She sure can pick 'em, eh? Hmmm…I wonder what will happen to skeevy guy if sister goes to the police about ex’s threats. > [@](#): > > The girls are staying with him this weekend… \ This makes me very nervous. Any chance Mr. Ex will try to get to her through the girls? Boy, this whole situation is just nuts. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/71 "2004-07-12T00:41:47Z")
> [@LilyoftheValley](#): > > :eek: > > She sure can pick 'em, eh? Yeah, no kidding. > [@](#): > > Hmmm…I wonder what will happen to skeevy guy if sister goes to the police about ex’s threats. I told friend to tell sister to get a restraining order and a police escort if she wants to get her and the kids’ stuff (husband is apparently, still at the house). Friend told sister this (I was there when she called sis on her cell phone when we were looking for the house) sis said “oh, I can go to the house, the girls are there right now.” Apparently she’s not that overly concerned. Of course, she doesn’t seem to be concerned about much of anything, thus far. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > This makes me very nervous. Any chance Mr. Ex will try to get to her through the girls? > > Boy, this whole situation is just nuts. Friend told me that at one point in the past sister told her she was afraid of leaving husband because she was scared he would take the kids back to Mexico and she’d never see them again. Of course, if that were true, why the hell would she let her kids go spend the weekend with him when he’s calling her with threats? I don’t get it. I tell you, if it weren’t for those kids, I’d say the woman deserves whatever she gets at this point. She really does seem to be out in la la land about all of this. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/72 "2004-07-12T03:14:22Z")
How concerned does your friend seem? I mean, if I had three nieces and they were in this kind of situation, I’d be doing all I could to get them out of it! ---
**Author:** ![Reepicheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Reepicheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reepicheep)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/73 "2004-07-12T07:42:04Z")
I agree that this sounds like he is setting up a new identity as a married father of three instead of a single. If at all possible point this out Sister. If he is going to all this trouble to set up a new identify there must be something pretty bad that he is running from. As great as Mr. Wonderful seems is he worth letting her children possibly get caught, very literally, in the crossfire when Pretty Bad and Mr. Wonderful meet? I don’t have any more information to offer except can you get a picture of Mr. Wonderful? Taking that to the police might be better than just telling the story. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/74 "2004-07-12T14:32:55Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > How concerned does your friend seem? I mean, if I had three nieces and they were in this kind of situation, I’d be doing all I could to get them out of it! This is shaping up poorly re ex’s threats and, if real, those kids need to be pulled to safety until this is sorted out , however, given that the conduit for a lot of this information is the flakey sister of your friend, I don’t know how much of this you should really be taking at face value. Short of the kids and yourself, neither the friend, sister of friend, con man boyfriend or threatening ex are really distinguishing themselves in this increasingly dangerous scrum. Lezlers, I know you want to help, but if you can’t help the kids you should probably be distancing yourself from this mess with all due speed. This situation sounds ripe for the old adage of “no good deed goes unpunished” coming true. ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/75 "2004-07-12T16:05:59Z")
The guy is definatly up to something. Hope everything works out. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/76 "2004-07-12T16:17:19Z")
**lezlers** - I am seriously afraid for the children and you-especially if mystery man discovers that you’ve been poking around his past. I’m not exactly sure what the police can do at this point 'tho. It doesn’t sound as he’s broken any laws,yet. Please take care of yourself-if he is on the run/hiding and he finds out that you’ve been asking one too many questions, well, what’s to prevent him from trying to silence you. ---
**Author:** ![observer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/47e85d/32.png) [@observer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/observer)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/77 "2004-07-12T23:33:20Z")
- > [@](#): > > Husband has been repeatedly calling sister’s cell phone saying things like _“If I can’t have you, nobody will.”_ > > Friend and I took a little drive yesterday to see the new house. \*House is in Mr. Wonderful’s name. \* > > And as far as the 50K goes, … \*he didn’t put it directly into her account. \* - Please allow me to observe: 1/ The woman’s life has been threatened. 2/ Mr. Wonderful is not buying her a house. 3/ Mr. Wonderful has not given her 50 grand. Why WOULDN’T somebody call the cops? Leaving aside the potentially dangerous husband, Mr. Wonderful is clearly up to no good. Think about the fact that the authorities haven’t hesitated to lock up lower-lever associates of drug dealers if they can’t get the top guy (or even if they can), and if Mr. Wonderful is a dealer she is now his associate. Also, somebody should teach all the kids how to make a collect phone call. They could conceivably get into a situation where the only phone they could get to might be at a gas station or 7-11. Even if they don’t have money or a phone card, they can still call their aunt, you or somebody else collect. And tell them not to hesitate to call 911 if they’re really in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![MaryEFoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MaryEFoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaryEFoo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/78 "2004-07-13T01:20:53Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > Friend and I took a little drive yesterday to see the new house. They couldn’t possibly be more secluded. Beautiful house, _way_ out in the sticks. There seems to be some trouble with sale, though. The seller said he needed time to subdivide the property, Mr. Wonderful offered 10K more in cash for seller to get out w/in 2 weeks. House is in Mr. Wonderful’s name. Or going to be. There were still signs all over the place saying it was for sale, so I’m not sure how far along they are in the purchase. Was this information direct from the seller or via she-said-he-said-he-said? If true, the seller has put the house up for sale before he’s ready to sell; odd. It might be informative to call the realtor’s number from the posted signs and ask for the status of the property. S/He may not give names, but will tell you if an offer has been made and/or accepted, or other facts. Offers are legal documents made in writing. Don’t start with leading questions, just ask for the status. Anyone can do that. PS. > [@observer](#): > > Please allow me to observe: > > 1/ The woman’s life has been threatened. > > 2/ Mr. Wonderful is not buying her a house. > > 3/ Mr. Wonderful has not given her 50 grand. Yeah howdy. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/79 "2004-07-13T03:31:36Z")
I left the informational paper in friends car, but I’ll call her and ask for the realtor’s number tommorow, good idea. And **jlzania** , I didn’t even think about that, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-advice-about-really-skeevy-guy-kids-might-be-in-danger/254238/80 "2004-07-13T03:44:26Z")
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