# Need examples of things that aren't what their name implies

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 27, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-examples-of-things-that-arent-what-their-name-implies/583432 "2011-05-27T15:14:41Z")\
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Cream of tartar. (Unless there’s a an alternate meaning of the word “cream” that I’m missing?)

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> Sweetbreads (thymus and pancreas) are certainly not bread and are not very sweet.
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> ETA: Damn it. Beaten to the punch again.

And sweetmeats are sweet but hopefully do not contain meat.

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> [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](#):
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> Mincemeat pie apprently has no meat in it.

Well, mincemeat did always used to include meat, and now properly includes beef suet, which could be considered meat in a sense.

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steak house

Hot Plate

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> [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](#):
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> Mincemeat pie apprently has no meat in it.

Usually true, but not always.

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**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-examples-of-things-that-arent-what-their-name-implies/583432/26 "2011-05-27T16:57:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The Holy Roman Empire did not include the city of Rome through most of its existence.

The usual joke is that it was was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

Sea lions are not lions (neither are ant lions). Sea cucumbers are not cucumbers (or even vegetables).

Actually there is a whole bunch of sea \_\_ things: anenomes, hares…

A soap opera is not an opera, and rarely involves soap.

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**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-examples-of-things-that-arent-what-their-name-implies/583432/27 "2011-05-27T16:59:45Z")

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Pocketbook  
Notebook  
English muffin  
Lead (in pencil)  
Keyboard  
Mouse

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Cheesecake is actually pie.

When come back, bring cheesecake.

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Military intelligence.

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> [@panache45](#):
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> English muffin

This opens the door too dozens if not scores of geographically-incorrect foodstuff names.

Just to name a few:  
Hollandaise sauce is French.  
Philadelphia cream cheese was invented in New York City.  
Texas Pete is made in North Carolina.  
Chicken Kiev has nothing to do with Kiev.

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Picadilly Circus (in London… is circular, but ain’t no circus)  
Times Square (in NY—is a triangle)

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Notebook  
> …  
> Keyboard

I have books that I take notes in.

And keys are indeed arrayed in a board before me.

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> [@what\_do\_I\_type\_here](#):
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> Mincemeat pie apprently has no meat in it.

Nor any mints.

A monk once remarked to me about the Sisters of Mercy, “They’re neither”.

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> A “koala bear” is not a bear, but not sure how much they are called “bear” anymore.

Used to be we knew panda bears weren’t really bears. Upon further analysis, they actually are. But now they’re not really pandas.

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City chicken, which usually comes from pigs (or possibly calves).

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> One parks in a driveway, but drives on a parkway.
> 
> Someone ought to ask Cecil why that is.

I’m sure many have asked Cecil, but this was answered many times:

**Drive-way** - historic usage = a lane or path from the road to the main manor or the carriage house (were you’d leave your carriage, horseless or not), as land parcels shrunk, and the carriage house morphed into a Garage (or was dispensed with altogether), well the (now much shorter) ribbon of concrete/asphalt where you drive up and park your vehicle kept it name…

**Parkways** - historic again = road landscaped to give a drive-thru-a-park experience (Parkways are more or less linear parks) - I think of Fred Olmsted and his landscaping of 19th century New York, but I’m sure Parkways existed in some form way before that for the European Royalty and their carriages…

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The creatures known as fireflies, lighning bugs, or (in their larval stage) glowworms are properly neither flies, bugs, nor worms, but beetles.

So are ladybugs. Mayflies, dragonflies, and butterflies are not flies. (Nor are they dragons, nor made of butter.)

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A cockroach has nothing whatsoever to do with either chickens or male genitalia.

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Hot dog.  
Hamburger.

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Pocketbook  
> English muffin

English muffins are the things that are known as muffins in England (as sold by the muffin man, who lives down Drury Lane). This is a thing that is exactly what its name says it is.

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