# Need help identifying this object **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 5, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-help-identifying-this-object/756530 "2016-06-05T00:24:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-help-identifying-this-object/756530/21 "2016-06-05T15:50:24Z")
This is Ontario, Canada. Cars rust like this after 5 years. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-help-identifying-this-object/756530/22 "2016-06-05T16:06:20Z")
> [@Jesta](#): > > Clearly visable here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mXQ5EnEGc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mXQ5EnEGc) " 2003 Echo Brakes tutorial video. " > > Have a look with a torch if needed through your wheels, removing plastic trim if need be, and you should spot the difference from one side to the other. If you’ve got the other one rusty too, and intend to keep the car in good order, could be time to start looking for a pair, either used but better, or new oem parts… > > [http://parts.toyotaofdallas.com/toyota/echo/4778252020/2003-year/base-trim/1-5l-l4-gas-engine/brakes-cat/front-brakes-scat/?part\_name=splash-shield&position=splash-shield](http://parts.toyotaofdallas.com/toyota/echo/4778252020/2003-year/base-trim/1-5l-l4-gas-engine/brakes-cat/front-brakes-scat/?part_name=splash-shield&position=splash-shield) You’re talking about drum brakes at the beginning and linked to a disc brake part at the end. The disc brake part is just to sorta kinda keep some water and road debris out. The drum brake part is what everything is mounted to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-help-identifying-this-object/756530.md?page=1)