# Need immediate wine-related assistance (what's a pinot?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** wine\ **Created:** [February 20, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248 "2004-02-20T19:39:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/21 "2004-02-21T00:20:30Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > um…buy a bottle of both? Then, start with a light appetizer, say some smoked white fish, and break out the Grigio. When you move to the sushi, ask innocently, “would you prefer the Pinot Noir with the sushi?” Be strong, and convincing, that you think ‘but of course the red Pinot goes better with sushi’, but why would you overrule her desires if she wants to stick with the white? > > Then, you have leftover wine! If the night goes well, you can always, suggestively yet lightly, suggest that a late afternoon the next day to chat, nibble on some food, and of course finish off the wine would be in order. > > That’s the way I’d do it…in my fantasy world 🙂 A superb idea! ---
**Author:** ![Farmwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Farmwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmwoman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/22 "2004-02-21T00:22:51Z")
**rexnervous** beat me to it. 25 bucks can buy you a respectable bottle of each. But I would reverse the order: Have the red open when she arrives…casually hanging out with a small tray of cheddar cheese and wheat thins, then move to the crispy white with the sushi. When given the chance, I always drink two bottles of wine. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/23 "2004-02-21T00:25:12Z")
Done and done. I got a pinot grigio by Ecco Domani. It was much less expensive than I imagined ($10) and it was actually one of the more expensive ones there. > [@](#): > > it’s possible his date is somewhat inexperienced in wine herself and simply picked up a term she heard someone say at some time, It’s possible but I don’t think so. This will actually be our 3rd date. Both dinner dates in the past she’s ordered wine and seemed pretty confident about what she wanted. And I’m happy to say I’ve gotten to know her a bit and I don’t detect anything pretentious in her at all. Now me on the other hand: her: oh, OK, I’m sure this will be fine but I was thinking of a Pinot Noir. me: Yeah, I wasn’t sure but I figured the pleasant floral and tropical fruit aromas of a Pinot Grigio might be a better compliment to our sushi. her: Ya know I agree. Gee Moe, you’re so cultured and smart. me: Yes, but I’d trade it all for world peace. her: (awed sigh) ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/24 "2004-02-21T00:28:20Z")
> [@Farmwoman](#): > > When given the chance, I always drink two bottles of wine. by yourself? :eek: :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Farmwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8dc957/32.png) [@Farmwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmwoman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/25 "2004-02-21T00:35:00Z")
That too! But I meant as a couple. There never seems to be enough in one little bottle to get two people through the entire evening. When I get together with the girls we polish off 1.5 each without blinking an eye (or slurring a consonant cluster) ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/26 "2004-02-21T00:41:34Z")
To those posts that appeared just after I hit “submit”: Yeah, I’m the kinda guy who drinks till the bottle(s) is/are empty, and then decides whether to continue with beer or tanqueray and tonics. She seems more of a single-glass-with-dinner type thus far. I’d rather not even have the option of getting inappropriately drunk. Of course I’ll still be evaluating the possible ways of segueing into talk of the following day’s activities 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/27 "2004-02-21T00:43:14Z")
You _will_ let us know how the meal wen’t, won’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/28 "2004-02-21T00:59:51Z")
> [@Moe](#): > > Done and done. > > I got a pinot grigio by Ecco Domani. It was much less expensive than I imagined ($10) and it was actually one of the more expensive ones there. > > It’s possible but I don’t think so. This will actually be our 3rd date. Both dinner dates in the past she’s ordered wine and seemed pretty confident about what she wanted. And I’m happy to say I’ve gotten to know her a bit and I don’t detect anything pretentious in her at all. > > Now me on the other hand: > > her: oh, OK, I’m sure this will be fine but I was thinking of a Pinot Noir. > me: Yeah, I wasn’t sure but I figured the pleasant floral and tropical fruit aromas of a Pinot Grigio might be a better compliment to our sushi. > her: Ya know I agree. Gee Moe, you’re so cultured and smart. > me: Yes, but I’d trade it all for world peace. > her: (awed sigh) Way to go, Moe. All things considered, Ecco Domani is probably my favorite. Also, I didn’t mean to suggest your date might be pretentious, just that she might have picked up the term somewhere (and how else is she to express what she wants) or that she might just be unable to recall the rest of its name. Now that I know she knows her wine, I might be more inclined to think she meant Pino Noir after all. But it sounds like you’ve got it all under control. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/29 "2004-02-23T00:25:03Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > You _will_ let us know how the meal wen’t, won’t you? Breakfast\* was delicious 😉 Thanks all! \*Actually, it was just leftover sushi, but good nevertheless. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/30 "2004-02-23T01:09:39Z")
You’re very welcome, and congratulations. Looks like things went great. 😃 So, what do think she meant? Was it grigio or noir? ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/31 "2004-02-23T02:47:52Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > So, what do think she meant? Was it grigio or noir? Well, it never came up actually. I just simply asked her if I did OK with the wine and she said it was very good. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248/32 "2004-02-23T03:13:57Z")
Damn! I’ve been wondering all weekend if she wanted pinot noir with her sushi! 🙂 But, it sounds like you had a great time and that was the whole point. Congrats again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-immediate-wine-related-assistance-whats-a-pinot/230248.md?page=1)