# Need new name for ISIS / ISIL quickly **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 18, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826 "2014-09-18T15:18:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/21 "2014-09-21T16:04:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How about USUL: > > the Unislamic State Uf the Levant Otherwise known as Muad’Dib. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/22 "2014-09-21T16:40:20Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Says who? The Caliph? The not-afraid-to-speak-truth President of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/23 "2014-09-21T17:40:46Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > The not-afraid-to-speak-truth President of the United States. And being Muslim himself, he should know!!! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/24 "2014-09-21T18:31:26Z")
I understand the knee-jerk desire to slam Islam with these guys, but we can demonstrate that Americans are better than that. How about Daesh Bags? ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Knowledgable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowledgable)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/25 "2014-09-21T20:33:57Z")
I think PIQSIL would be good. Pseudo-Islamic Quasi-State of Iraq and the Levant. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/26 "2014-09-21T20:37:47Z")
…Or just call them what they call themselves and let their deeds speak to their monstrousness without resorting to childish name-calling. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/27 "2014-09-21T20:56:08Z")
> [@rsa](#): > > I googled this: [translate Contra to Arabic](https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHNU_enUS330US330&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=translate%20contra%20to%20arabic). When I click the speaker icon I hear something that sounds like **Dhub**. Maybe an Arabic speaker can help out here. The word is ضِدّ “ḍidd” — which has a different “d” consonant as the initial sound than the dd at the end. It simply means ‘against, contrary, opposite, opponent’. As the name of a political group, that root would take the form Muḍāddūn (meaning ‘those who oppose/antagonize’), formed on the same pattern as Mujāhidūn. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/28 "2014-09-22T00:13:42Z")
I also like what NPR is doing, calling them “the so-called Islamic State”. ---
**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/29 "2014-09-22T00:27:47Z")
They already called themselves the Jama’at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, and then they realised how telling the truth is not always the best way to go… but anyway its entirely fair to call them Jihad … It makes some sense in Syria to raise a militia to keep the civil war away from area. But the insurgency in Iraq is against peaceful rebuilding of the country… maybe because the constitution is not in their favour. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/30 "2014-09-22T00:48:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …Or just call them what they call themselves and let their deeds speak to their monstrousness without resorting to childish name-calling. …the Badly Underdramatic Zealots of Kurdistan, Iraq, and the Levant? ---
**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/31 "2014-09-22T00:51:17Z")
Apparently they don’t like Daesh , so that automatically makes me think it’s appropriate. Otherwise, just call them PITS Pseudo Islamic Terrorist Scum ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826/32 "2014-09-22T02:07:26Z")
If you really want to piss them off, a name like: DAJJAL - Dumb-Ass Jihadis Joining Abu Lahab Glossary: [Dajjal](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masih_ad-Dajjal) refers to the false messiah in Islamic eschatology, said to one day come from somewhere between Iran and Syria. Abu Lahab was Muhammad’s uncle and a prominent opponent. The Qur’an condemns him and his wife to suffer in hell. I do have to say, though, Daesh bags is growing on me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/need-new-name-for-isis-isil-quickly/698826.md?page=1)