# NeedsToKnow, You Should Be Ashamed! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 30, 2001, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877 "2001-04-30T18:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2001, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/41 "2001-05-03T23:14:39Z")
Milossarian wrote: > [@](#): > > Let he or she who is without underaged drinking, particularly while at _college_, cast the first empty beer can. > > Show me someone who didn’t, and I’ll show you a dork who I wouldn’t much want to hang around with. Who probably has a bit of a skewed worldview. Just remember, we dorks write all of the code for the computers **your** bank accounts are tabulated in… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/42 "2001-05-04T01:04:53Z")
So, those of us who are there to get an education are just wasting our time? :rolleyes: Good lord, I’m sick of hearing, “all those who claim they never drink are stupid losers” or some shit like that. ---
**Author:** ![Enkidu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@Enkidu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkidu)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/43 "2001-05-04T02:29:09Z")
I’ve been lurking for a long time (though I’ve made a couple of inconsequential posts). And, I have to admit, one of my guilty little pleasures has always been searching the “recent posts” categories for N2K’s general inanities. My introduction to her was a thread she initiated a while ago, and I’m sorry, I tried to find it but could not, in which she called out the entire board because it was not (as she absolutely knew without having to demonstrate) dedicated to fighting ignorance at all because the debate and repartee did not conform to her own notions of what the truth is. I beg everyone’s pardon, including N2K’s, for the paraphrase based on memory, but the gist was: for a site dedicated to fighting ignorance, there sure are a lot of morons posting here. Great stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/44 "2001-05-04T02:45:20Z")
… And for those of you just joining us, an apology and retraction was offered for a particular comment. Don’t forget, PitCenter at 11:30 p.m. Eastern Time. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/45 "2001-05-04T02:52:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* So, those of us who are there to get an education are just wasting our time? > > :rolleyes: > > Good lord, I’m sick of hearing, “all those who claim they never drink are stupid losers” or some shit like that. \*\* Not exactly a perfect representation of what was said. And does that imply that those who do drink under age 21 aren’t serious about their education? If you disagree with this statement: > [@](#): > > **And, believe it or not, choosing that** (underaged drinking)\*\* experience prior to age 21 is a pretty damned common occurrence, and not particularly evil. \*\* Please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/46 "2001-05-04T03:09:56Z")
I have to say, from a Canadian perspective, Jenna’s hijinks are quite interesting and amusing (heck, a legal drinking age of 21 is pretty amusing - Canada has a legal drinking age of 18 or 19, depending on the province). And **Needs2know** feels that the fact that this girl is drinking at an age where she would have been in bars for a year legally in Alberta is some kind of tragic flaw in the Bush family? Somebody **Needs2getalife**. ---
**Author:** ![Enkidu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@Enkidu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkidu)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/47 "2001-05-04T03:53:14Z")
Okay, my bad. Here it is. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=30533](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=30533) And it IS, IMO, as damning as any JDT thread as far as the dumbass category, yet she has gotten this far. But those present certainly called her out on it, and my search of her activity indicates that she is more or less ignored by most of you (though once in awhile somebody with reasonably sypathetic views gives her the time of day). Seems as if the freethinking market is prevailing, which is good news. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/48 "2001-05-04T14:39:50Z")
And it’s no surprise that Daisy Yokum with an attitude (a.k.a. Needs2Know) hasn’t bothered to show up in this thread. Chalk up being gutless as one more of her traits. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/49 "2001-05-04T14:50:45Z")
If you go to one of those churches that uses real wine for communion, and you take communion there before you’re 21, does that count as Underage Drinking? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/50 "2001-05-04T20:20:54Z")
> [@](#): > > And it’s no surprise that Daisy Yokum with an attitude (a.k.a. Needs2Know) hasn’t bothered to show up in this thread. Chalk up being gutless as one more of her traits. [Sarcasm] Now, now, perhaps she simply hasn’t seen this thread. I mean, we all know that she stays out of the Pit entirely, and never feels the need to get involved in a heated argument. [/Sarcasm] ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/51 "2001-05-29T19:53:40Z")
For a quick history of American political gossip and the roles family have played in it I recommend Gail Collins’ (of the _New York Times_) book _Scorpion Tongues: Gossip Through the Ages_. If anybody wants to borrow my copy I’d be happy to arrange something. ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2001, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877/52 "2001-05-31T04:29:04Z")
Hmm, it seems that Jenna Bush was busted [AGAIN](http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010530/us/bush_daughter_1.html). Once is understandable, twice is just stupid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/needstoknow-you-should-be-ashamed/63877.md?page=2)