# Neighbors who simply MUST park in front of my house

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571 "2012-12-19T20:51:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![jb1931](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jb1931](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb1931)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/201 "2012-12-27T21:55:59Z")

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> [@SerafinaPekala](#):
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> TRUTH.
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> For a noob, you catch on fast! Welcome!

Why thank you! I’ve been lurking for quite a while, just not posting.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/202 "2012-12-27T22:22:23Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I’m having a hard time picturing this. What does this even look like?

According to my calculations, something like [this](http://i.imgur.com/ZgBV8.jpg).

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**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/203 "2012-12-27T22:34:35Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> According to my calculations, something like [this](http://i.imgur.com/ZgBV8.jpg).

I think it’s a little different- although I can’t draw. I think **MissTake** ’s next door neighbor is on the corner lot and the entrance is around the corner from **MissTake** ’s house and the people across the street have their backyards facing **MissTake** ’s house while the entrances are one street over.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/204 "2012-12-27T22:51:04Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I’m having a hard time picturing this. What does this even look like?

Say my address is 1113 Elm St. I have a wide yard, no back yard. I am the only house that faces Elm St between 11th and 12th. My neighbor to the right, while being next door, faces 11th. My neighbor across the street faces 12th. No one but me faces Elm, making me the only house on my block.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/205 "2012-12-27T23:39:22Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Actually, if you check join dates, you’re the ‘noob’.
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> 🙂

Maybe a sock of a returning bannee, who forgot to pretend to be a noob. [sub]shhhhhh, don’t say anything.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/206 "2012-12-28T00:42:18Z")

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> [@jb1931](#):
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> Why thank you! I’ve been lurking for quite a while, just not posting.

I like the cut of your jib, **jb** ; I think you have correctly assessed the situation. This _is_ the forum to express one’s irritations - logical, rational, or not. It’s kind of like when you want to vent to your partner and they try to “solve” the problem for you or “rationalize it away”. Jeez; just let a brother (or in my case, sister) blow off steam!

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**Author:** ![jb1931](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jb1931](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb1931)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/207 "2012-12-28T02:03:48Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> I like the cut of your jib, **jb** ; I think you have correctly assessed the situation. This _is_ the forum to express one’s irritations - logical, rational, or not. It’s kind of like when you want to vent to your partner and they try to “solve” the problem for you or “rationalize it away”. Jeez; just let a brother (or in my case, sister) blow off steam!

Yes, hubby is the same way. He tells me it is because men are built to feel compelled to solve problems, especially when it involves the women they love. Frankly, I know plenty of women that are the same way (wanting to solve the problem instead of just letting you vent). I wish I could just be above it all and not worry about trivial stuff. However, if nobody was ever irritated by anything, there would be no need for The Pit and I like The Pit.

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**Author:** ![jb1931](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jb1931](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb1931)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/208 "2012-12-28T02:09:34Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Maybe a sock of a returning bannee, who forgot to pretend to be a noob. [sub]shhhhhh, don’t say anything.[/sub]

I’m not sure if this is referring to me but I will answer you just in case. I have never been banned from this message board. I joined in October and have been lurking. The first post you saw was the first post I ever made here under any name. I do post in other forums and am not new to the concept. I have also been reading since long before I joined. Have I said something to offend you?

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**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/209 "2012-12-28T02:54:49Z")

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Im a noob too…I think Chesire was joking…its a grave crime to accuse someone of trolling or puppetry…SDMB is well moderated…I do wish folks would not fight with each other so much tho…i learn much more from “reasoned” debate…

“good parking makes good neighbors”…////I hate parking in other peoples areas…they can see what I’m doing in my truck!!:eek:

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/210 "2012-12-28T03:05:25Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Yep still not seeing it. Unless you are inappropiately angry like Tony in the story above. I live in the suburbs. Park in front of my house. Why the fuck do I care? Just don’t block the mailbox or the driveway. Both of which are illegal anyway.

And this guy is one of the police’s finest. You know what? I’ve never had anyone park in front of my house. And, yet, after reading these comments, I can understand why it might be considered rude. The fact that you can’t grasp the concept makes me wonder if you’ve been hurt in the head while in action, or if you’ve always shown the brain damage that Bricker has. It’s fucking obvious that if someone repeatedly performs an action that inconveniences both them and you that their intent is to be rude.

Your going to get get shot one of these days if you can’t grasp the concept of rudeness, because you’re going to piss someone off who pulls a gun before you have a chance. Seriously, you need to learn the concept. Because there’s no way you can have read what’s in this thread, understand what rudeness is, and not understand where people are coming from in this thread, even if you don’t agree.

You have to have some social deficit or mental disability.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/211 "2012-12-28T03:14:23Z")

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> [@jb1931](#):
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> I was actually referencing a couple of the folks who specifically said that you should not be annoyed because the neighbors in question are legally parked and you don’t own the street. I don’t own the mall either but it still slightly annoys me when people stand in the middle of a doorway, blocking the entrance and don’t move even why I say excuse me or in any way acknowledge their rudeness. They are not doing anything illegal and I recognize that they are well within their rights (legally) to stand wherever they want in a public place. Does that make it any less rude or ignorant for them to do so? No. Do they realize they are being rude? Debatable. Am I going to go all postal and start screaming at them and punching them in the face? Only in my mind. Is it going to ruin my whole entire day and throw me into a deep depression? Of course not. It’s just a mild annoyance. I may grumble to my husband about rude, ignorant people and move on. That’s sort of what people are doing here. Some people just like to vent when something annoys them. If others don’t feel the need or are never bothered by petty things, great! I genuinely do wish I had that attitude. On the other hand, no need to insult people who don’t share your ability to let everything slide.

That’s the thing, though. Their very posts in this thread prove them to be liars. If nothing bothers them, then why the hell are they so bothered by someone voicing an opinion different than theirs, to the point that they repeatedly keep on going in the thread? And why are they reading the Pit, when they couldn’t identify with anything anyone says? If they truly were never annoyed, why are they here?

Answer, they’re either (a) trolling or (b) are people who perform the action that started the OP, and feel a need to defend themselves. Or, I guess, (c), have a mental disorder that prevents them from seeing how they are contradicting themselves.

My money with Morgenstein is on (b) with a side of “Maybe she thinks she’s never annoyed since she’s always the person acting like a douchenozzle.”

And it pisses me off that I’m defending **brazil84** and even his rules of debate. If they were always so judiciously used, they wouldn’t piss me off so much.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/212 "2012-12-28T03:21:25Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> …My mom has a lot of these, and drives herself crazy. You should see her as she scopes out any restaurant she enters, to see if there are any males over the age of ten with hats on, or if any diner has placed a fork directly on the table instead of the placemat. Or if anyone has parked in front of someone else’s house…

Interesting, does she actually go up to any of these people and confront them?

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**Author:** ![jb1931](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jb1931](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb1931)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/213 "2012-12-28T03:43:04Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> That’s the thing, though. Their very posts in this thread prove them to be liars. If nothing bothers them, then why the hell are they so bothered by someone voicing an opinion different than theirs, to the point that they repeatedly keep on going in the thread? And why are they reading the Pit, when they couldn’t identify with anything anyone says? If they truly were never annoyed, why are they here?
> 
> Answer, they’re either (a) trolling or (b) are people who perform the action that started the OP, and feel a need to defend themselves. Or, I guess, (c), have a mental disorder that prevents them from seeing how they are contradicting themselves.
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> My money with Morgenstein is on (b) with a side of “Maybe she thinks she’s never annoyed since she’s always the person acting like a douchenozzle.”
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> And it pisses me off that I’m defending **brazil84** and even his rules of debate. If they were always so judiciously used, they wouldn’t piss me off so much.

That’s pretty much what I was trying to say in my first post (#196) and I wholeheartedly agree, although you probably said it better. A. If you don’t want to read about people’s annoyances, don’t come and read at The Pit which is designed for that purpose. B. Complaining about other people’s complaints is still complaining so they are not actually as immune from petty annoyances as they claim (Damn! I think I confused even myself there).

The point is that nobody is suggesting that people parking in front of their house bothers them across the board in any situation or by any person. What I think they are saying is they object to neighbors who do it repeatedly to either a. make some kind of point, b. because they are oblivious to good manners/common courtesy, or c. because they are just plain douchebags. They are not complaining about people who ocassionally park there or park there because parking is not available in front of their own homes. I think some are being deliberately obtuse in pretending not to understand the difference. Like I said, my neighbors do it all the time and always have (we have lived here 12 years). We have never complained to them or called the police on them for it. However, I happen to know that they are inconsiderate a-holes from a variety of other things they have done over the years. Has it ever occurred to anyone that perhaps the people complaining on this thread know their neighbors and their neighborhood well enough to tell whether neighbors are just being jerks? Yes, it’s a public street. No, I don’t own it. Yes, they are well within their rights to park there. Guess what, I am well within my rights to bitch about it here or to anyone else who will listen. If I was going to start a thread here about my neighbors, the parking thing probably would not be tops on my list of things to bitch about but that’s another story.

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**Author:** ![jb1931](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jb1931](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb1931)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/214 "2012-12-28T03:55:11Z")

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> [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](#):
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> Im a noob too…I think Chesire was joking…its a grave crime to accuse someone of trolling or puppetry…SDMB is well moderated…I do wish folks would not fight with each other so much tho…i learn much more from “reasoned” debate…
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> “good parking makes good neighbors”…////I hate parking in other peoples areas…they can see what I’m doing in my truck!!:eek:

Ha! What are you doing in your truck? Nevermind, that’s probably a different forum.

I don’t see why debates ever have to turn personal and degrade into the forum equivalent of name calling. If I am really not interested in the entire topic of a thread or think it’s a waste of time, I just ignore it and move on. Plus, I think you can disagree with someone without being nasty or condescending. Everyone has a right to their opinions. Even people who disagree with me!

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/215 "2012-12-28T12:08:08Z")

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> [@jb1931](#):
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> I’m not sure if this is referring to me but I will answer you just in case. I have never been banned from this message board. I joined in October and have been lurking. The first post you saw was the first post I ever made here under any name. I do post in other forums and am not new to the concept. I have also been reading since long before I joined. Have I said something to offend you?

I think he’s referring to the OP (they had a more recent join date, but said you catch on quick for a noob). I also think it wasn’t intended as a serious accusation.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/216 "2012-12-28T12:40:42Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> You have to have some social deficit or mental disability.

Pot. Kettle. Nuff said.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/217 "2012-12-28T13:14:24Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> I think he’s referring to the OP (they had a more recent join date, but said you catch on quick for a noob). I also think it wasn’t intended as a serious accusation.

Yes, precisely on both. Joke at the expense of the newer noob calling someone here longer ‘noob’.

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**Author:** ![jb1931](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jb1931](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb1931)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/218 "2012-12-28T15:37:32Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Yes, precisely on both. Joke at the expense of the newer noob calling someone here longer ‘noob’.

Ahh. Thanks for clearing that up and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I like to think I am just a really smart noob.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/219 "2012-12-28T16:01:30Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> That’s the thing, though. Their very posts in this thread prove them to be liars. If nothing bothers them, then why the hell are they so bothered by someone voicing an opinion different than theirs, to the point that they repeatedly keep on going in the thread? And why are they reading the Pit, when they couldn’t identify with anything anyone says? If they truly were never annoyed, why are they here?
> 
> Answer, they’re either (a) trolling or (b) are people who perform the action that started the OP, and feel a need to defend themselves. Or, I guess, (c), have a mental disorder that prevents them from seeing how they are contradicting themselves.
> 
> My money with Morgenstein is on (b) with a side of “Maybe she thinks she’s never annoyed since she’s always the person acting like a douchenozzle.”
> 
> And it pisses me off that I’m defending **brazil84** and even his rules of debate. If they were always so judiciously used, they wouldn’t piss me off so much.

Some people are mature enough to realize that letting little things bother them serves no purpose. We choose to draw the line when there is harm or the potential for harm involved. We choose to allow people to park in front of our house for the right to park in front of their house when we need to.

But you go ahead and bust your gussets all you like. I’m finding it rather funny.

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neighbors-who-simply-must-park-in-front-of-my-house/644571/220 "2012-12-28T16:21:51Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Actually, if you check join dates, you’re the ‘noob’.
> 
> 🙂

Was a joke 😉

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