# Neil Gaiman accused of being serial sexual abuser

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**Created:** [July 5, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781 "2024-07-05T19:48:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/401 "2025-01-19T22:10:30Z")

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It’s sort of like how, when I was battling bedbugs, after a while, there was a part of me that wanted to stop checking to see if I could find any. But that part was overruled by the part that knew that I had to keep checking, because if there were still any, they’d come back, and it’d be even harder to eradicate them.

Unfortunately, humans gonna human, and I suspect that a lot of folks really do choose to stop searching for the bedbugs. Or rapists.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/402 "2025-01-19T22:24:23Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> The Me Too movement is necessary.

Yeah. We can’t stop this shit by pretending it doesn’t happen. We’ve tried that. Doesn’t work.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/403 "2025-01-20T05:00:47Z")

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All of this goes for me, as well…

And I _did_ have an emotional attachment to Gaiman. Hell, I wooed my wife by reading _Good Omens_ out loud to our geology class. Not sure I’m ever going to tell that story unabridged again. Glad Pratchett isn’t around for this.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/404 "2025-01-20T12:09:29Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Someone lent me _Neverwhere_ and it was underwhelming but not bad. For some reason, while the aesthetics of both Sandman and Coraline are neat, I never actually tried reading the source material (having only seen the Coraline movie and individual frames of the Sandman).

I thought the Lenny Henry miniseries stuff _was_ the source material, or at least not a derivative version. I could be mistaken.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/405 "2025-01-20T14:03:24Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> I thought the Lenny Henry miniseries stuff _was_ the source material

Yes, the Henry/Gaiman TV series came first, the novel afterwards.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/406 "2025-01-20T15:17:51Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Question: Would it be better for us, the general public, _not_ to know what Gaiman did?

Well, maybe, but at the expense of the people he continues to abuse. At least this way, they have some warning, and more support if they run/fight/just need to complain.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/407 "2025-01-20T15:25:15Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Would it be better for us, the general public, _not_ to know what Gaiman did? I

Morally? Not at all.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/408 "2025-01-20T15:28:10Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Yeah, I’m not sure how you could really and truly judge a person by the fiction they write - maybe that person did suspect something, but that’s probably coincidence.

Counterpoint:  
[![](https://img.ifunny.co/images/390c11d97aa5dcf6b65cbb566b8621ec89ec621432e96dd14247d21e79208913_1.jpg) ](https://img.ifunny.co/images/390c11d97aa5dcf6b65cbb566b8621ec89ec621432e96dd14247d21e79208913_1.jpg)

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/409 "2025-01-20T16:53:20Z")

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Fair exception

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/410 "2025-01-25T14:27:18Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> On top of the mentioned video adaptations, there is currently an ongoing _Anazi Boys_ comic adaptation by Dark Horse. Issue 7 has just come out.

Dark Horse Comics announced last night that issue 7 will be the last.

> “Last week, Anansi Boys 7 hit stands. It will be the last issue. Dark Horse will not release a trade,” Bernardin said in a post on his BlueSky.
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> “…Anansi Boys is about two brothers, twins. One is meek, timid, like a flopsy, set-upon puppy. The other brother is narcissistic, hedonistic, governed by nothing other than his own pursuit of sensation and pleasure. They seem so different, but they are very much flip sides of the same coin. Literally. I never gave too much thought about that. Until now. My heart breaks for the survivors and any pain seeing these books on the shelves might have caused.”

> **[Neil Gaiman Comic Canceled Amid Assault Allegations](https://www.cbr.com/neil-gaiman-anansi-boys-canceled-dark-horse/)**
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> Dark Horse has canceled Anansi Boys amid Neil Gaiman's recent sexual assault allegations.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/411 "2025-02-02T00:00:14Z")

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Looks like Rhianna Pratchett is done with him.

> **[Terry Pratchett Estate Removes Neil Gaiman From Good Omens Kickstarter](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/terry-pratchett-estate-removes-neil-gaiman-from-good-omens-kickstarter/)**
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> Terry Pratchett Estate has removed any payment to Neil Gaiman from the Good Omens Kickstarter, as well as offering refunds.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/412 "2025-02-02T20:19:42Z")

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[Sandman cancelled after season 2 also.](https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/the-sandman-canceled-neil-gaiman-netflix-season-2-1236287571/)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/413 "2025-02-02T23:30:21Z")

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Fucking idiot (Gaiman). The PR is that this was planned–apparently from what I have pieced together it will combine 4 arcs into 12 eps, and was always conceived to just be 2 seasons: Season of Mists, Brief Lives, The Kindly Ones, and The Wake. This means no A Game Of You, none of the excellent standalones like Ramadan or the Shakespeare one (all those faerie character designs would like blow the entire budget). I don’t buy it.

Edit: Apparently Shakespeare makes the cut, as might A Game Of You for maybe 1 full ep. if we are lucky.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/414 "2025-02-03T04:25:29Z")

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> **[Now DC Comics Cancels Orders For Sandman #8 Facsimile by Neil Gaiman](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/now-dc-comics-cancels-sandman-8-facsimile-edition-by-neil-gaiman/)**
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> DC Comics cancels orders for the Sandman #8 Facsimile Edition by Neil Gaiman, planned to have been published later this month.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/415 "2025-02-03T05:38:35Z")

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Meanwhile, Amanda Palmer was out and about last week, getting _fucking music industry awards_, and being a completely evil hypocrite [in her acceptance speech.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UZbf0IBH8cM).  
Real freedom is the “freedom to be heard”? “The freedom to choose”? Well, unless you’re the broken girl Amanda personally dangles in front of her rapist ex., I guess.

Fuck WIMM, whoever they are. Performative feminists who don’t give a fuck about real victimized women, based on their choice of honouree.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/neil-gaiman-accused-of-being-serial-sexual-abuser/1003781/416 "2025-02-03T09:39:18Z")

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While the commercial/social response to Gaiman has been quick and pleasingly merciless, I am utterly baffled as to why Palmer seems to be skating on this. The Vulture article made it pretty clear IMHO that she is utterly and knowingly complicit, feeding him victims and then managing the fallout through manipulation and gaslighting. It’s abominable. And yet… nothing I’ve seen suggests that is rebounding on her.

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> nothing I’ve seen suggests that is rebounding on her.

Plenty of condemnation on Reddit that I’ve seen, but otherwise, not much.

I have an acquaintance, a very talented local artist, who draws art for Palmer and the Dresden Dolls - tour art, posters, that kind of thing. It pains me that she’s very much still stanning for her on Facebook, after everything has come out. Cultists gotta cult, I guess.

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> The Vulture article made it pretty clear IMHO that she is utterly and knowingly complicit, feeding him victims and then managing the fallout through manipulation and gaslighting.

Best case scenario she was callously indifferent and self-centered. Not knowing or believing he was actually committing assault, but shrugging off that he seemed to have an issue with constantly seducing the help. “Oh, Neil - can you please not fuck every nanny?” All while living a fantasy where her (mostly unpaid or underpaid) servants were actually “friends” and “peers”, so, hey - it’s not a grossly inappropriate power imbalance at all!

That’s the best case, which is pretty fucking bad IMO. But at least it’s not actively complicit, just a stupid and shitty inadvertent enabler of his worst impulses. The best case. Worst case, yeah she’s kind of a monster.

Either way she deserves some blow-back.

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…I’ve never seen a thread where someone is telling on themselves so creepily…

JFC.

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> But at least it’s not actively complicit

That falls apart when you consider she refused to testify to the police when a case _was_ laid.

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