# Netflix exec fired for "using" N-word

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 24, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664 "2018-06-24T15:19:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/181 "2018-07-06T20:05:06Z")

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> [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](#):
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> Your use of the word ‘wypipo’ implies that you’re not interested in fighting oppression so much as you are interested in _being_ the oppressor.
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> You should work on that.

> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> I don’t like you using that term, it has negative connotations towards people who are White and is a gross generalisation, please refrain from further use in the future.

Sooo cuuute! _pat_

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/182 "2018-07-06T20:07:11Z")

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Dafuq man ?

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/183 "2018-07-06T20:09:06Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Sooo cuuute! _pat_

Question: If you don’t care about your own racism, why should anyone care when you call anyone or anything else racist?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/184 "2018-07-06T20:11:46Z")

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Aaww. Look at the widdle cutie, pwaying pwetend. Who’s a great Pretend Oppressed Person? You are! Yes, you are!

Man, wypipo are the \*best \*at everything. Even being oppressed!

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/185 "2018-07-06T20:19:53Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Aaww. Look at the widdle cutie, pwaying pwetend. Who’s a great Pretend Oppressed Person? You are! Yes, you are!
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> Man, wypipo are the \*best \*at everything. Even being oppressed!

Again, my question stands. If you are so blasé about your own naked, unabashed, deliberate racism, why should anyone take your _accusations_ of racism seriously? If you’re not self-aware enough to recognise racism in _yourself_, what on Earth makes you think you have the cognitive wherewithal to recognise it in others?

Stop dancing round the question.

P.S. - Being racist is bad enough. Being _proud_ of it? Well, that’s just weird.

You should work on that.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/186 "2018-07-06T20:23:03Z")

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Sure, _bwana_. I’ll get right on that.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/187 "2018-07-06T20:26:17Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It may matter. It doesn’t matter _enough_ to override the other things that also matter, like race.

Yes, it does. For instance, if someone said “lol those wypipo sure do love mayonnaise amirite” is would be different than saying “wypipo all think they are the ones being oppressed”, the actual content is the most important, much more important to me than the speakers supposed race.

Similarly, if someone hypothetically spoke in an exaggerated SAE accent and made a pejorative remark about n-words, it would be much worse no matter who that person is than if the same person said “n-word is impolite to say”. Actually, the first case isn’t hypothetical. That happened to me in a movie theatre, and considering I was the closest light-skinned person around, in mocking my accent he was putting words in my mouth, making a claim that I thought he was an n-word. That behavior would be much worse in a workplace than simply saying that the n-word was unacceptable, no matter who the speakers are.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/188 "2018-07-06T20:33:59Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Sure, _bwana_. I’ll get right on that.

Glad to hear it. Self-improvement is good for the soul.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/189 "2018-07-06T20:34:30Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> the actual content is the most important, much more important to me than the speakers supposed race.

To _you_.

To some people, the race of the person saying nigger will override any concern of what the context is. This isn’t a hypothetical - despite some people questioning their sincerity, it’s pretty clear that was the reaction at Netflix.

> [@](#):
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> That happened to me in a movie theatre, and considering I was the closest light-skinned person around, in mocking my accent he was putting words in my mouth, making a claim that I thought he was an n-word.

…and you’re so sure that’s what this person was doing because…?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/190 "2018-07-06T20:35:34Z")

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> [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](#):
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> Glad to hear it. Self-improvement is good for the soul.

Whatever you say, _baas_.

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/191 "2018-07-06T20:39:17Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> To _you_.
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> To some people, the race of the person saying nigger will override any concern of what the context is. This isn’t a hypothetical - despite some people questioning their sincerity, it’s pretty clear that was the reaction at Netflix.
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> …and you’re so sure that’s what this person was doing because…?

To some people, the race of the person saying **wypipo** will override any concern of what the context is.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/192 "2018-07-06T20:40:26Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> To some people, the race of the person saying **wypipo** will override any concern of what the context is.

Some people also think Trump is a good example for children.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/193 "2018-07-06T20:42:26Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> …and you’re so sure that’s what this person was doing because…?

Because my brother and I were in the row in front of them in the theatre and his friends were talking and after awhile the guy with his talking friends says “now, you black n\*\*\*\*ers stop talking during the movie” which is a stereotype/observation many people have about African-Americans here in America. If the races were reversed and, for instance, a bunch of white people were behind a group of black people on a bus and the white people started dropping the n-bomb until one of them put on a thick African American accent and said “now youse why-pee-poh a-stop tawking about us like that!” the simplest deduction would be that they are putting words in the black people’s mouths (except in that instance the white people were being offensive off the bat rather than in their dramatic voice-over.)

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/194 "2018-07-06T20:42:47Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Whatever you say, _baas_.

Again, you don’t need to keep reassuring me. I have faith that you will, in time, acquire the introspective skills necessary to detect and conquer your own racism.

I look forward to corresponding with you in a future where you’re less racist.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/195 "2018-07-06T20:42:53Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Dafuq man ?

I don’t think it should be hard to understand. This thread is largely white people telling black people what they should and shouldn’t find offensive. **MrDibble** , being black himself, is repeatedly being told that he has a thin skin and is wrong. It makes sense that he might choose to say the same thing back.

And I do think he has a point when people pretend to be oppressed because they can’t say a slur they shouldn’t say anyways. I had already been switching back to “n-word” in other places, to avoid problems, and so I have no problem doing it here, too.

That said I do think jumping to “wypipo” is a bad idea. Yes, it’s nowhere near as bad a peroblem as the n-word, but it doesn’t help the debate to use it. It is a term that exists to be derogatory towards a particular race, and thus muddles or undermines any arguments about not using terms that exist to be derogatory towards a particular race.

I get the desire. You’re making a point. They think you should be thicker skinned, but their skin is so thin. But, at best, I don’t think it is a helpful tactic to use that word.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/196 "2018-07-06T20:43:35Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> To some people, the race of the person saying **wypipo** will override any concern of what the context is.

Well, _t\*\*hat_’d be nothing new, regardless of what that person was saying.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/197 "2018-07-06T20:48:14Z")

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> [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](#):
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> Again, my question stands. If you are so blasé about your own naked, unabashed, deliberate racism, why should anyone take your _accusations_ of racism seriously? If you’re not self-aware enough to recognise racism in _yourself_, what on Earth makes you think you have the cognitive wherewithal to recognise it in others?
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> Stop dancing round the question.
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> P.S. - Being racist is bad enough. Being _proud_ of it? Well, that’s just weird.
> 
> You should work on that.

This is a warning for personal insults. It is a collective warning for the totality of calling another poster a racist, etc. across multiple posts. If you feel you must, the BBQ Pit is right around the corner.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/198 "2018-07-06T20:51:41Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Sure, _bwana_. I’ll get right on that.

I’d prefer not to have to look up and determine in context if this is supposed to be an insult, along with the other terms being used. That, combined with the mocking condescension is too much. Dial it back. Engage the argument, not the poster, please.

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I’ve closed this thread to let cooler heads prevail. I’ll revisit in a few hours to see if there is something worth salvaging.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/netflix-exec-fired-for-using-n-word/816664/199 "2018-07-06T21:06:21Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Sooo cuuute! _pat_

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Aaww. Look at the widdle cutie, pwaying pwetend. Who’s a great Pretend Oppressed Person? You are! Yes, you are!
> 
> Man, wypipo are the \*best \*at everything. Even being oppressed!

Upon second look, and especially given Tom’s note in post #177 that I didn’t take into account, this is also a warning for personal insults. Report posts that are questionable rather than respond to them.

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