# Nevada Caucuses Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 12, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822 "2020-02-12T16:18:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/21 "2020-02-12T22:09:12Z")

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A friend attended the 2016 Democratic caucus here in Las Vegas and he said it was shitshow from start to finish. After the Iowa debacle, I can only hope that my fellow Nevadans have gotten their shit together. Got it all together. And put it in a backpack. All their shit. So it’s together.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/22 "2020-02-12T23:13:25Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> After the Iowa debacle, I can only hope that my fellow Nevadans have gotten their shit together.

Part of me hopes they didn’t so everyone switches to primaries next time.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/23 "2020-02-12T23:19:27Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Part of me hopes they didn’t so everyone switches to primaries next time.

We’ve only had them since 2008, it was part of Harry Reid’s plan to get in voting early, and then the Republican party followed.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/24 "2020-02-13T00:08:29Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> SD (South Dakota), or SC (South Carolina)? You have said SD twice.

SC.:smack:

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/25 "2020-02-13T01:45:14Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> SD (South Dakota), or SC (South Carolina)? You have said SD twice.

I like SD.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/26 "2020-02-13T02:39:02Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I like SD.

Let’s keep the rape jokes out of this thread, shall we. 😉

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/27 "2020-02-13T03:55:42Z")

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New Hampshire was interesting, so was Iowa. North Carolina will be important (especially to Biden). I cannot imagine a less important event than the Nevada caucus.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/28 "2020-02-13T03:58:13Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Part of me hopes they didn’t so everyone switches to primaries next time.

Oh, almost everyone I’ve ever spoken with who’s participated in a caucus thinks they should switch to primaries. Yet somehow they persist.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/29 "2020-02-13T04:54:28Z")

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More Harry Reid sounding off: “[Harry Reid Says It’s Time to Kill Off the Iowa Caucus](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4agnbj/exclusive-harry-reid-says-its-time-to-kill-off-the-iowa-caucus?utm_source=reddit.com)”.

The caucus is not representative of NV let alone the country.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/30 "2020-02-13T05:14:00Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Oh, almost everyone I’ve ever spoken with who’s participated in a caucus thinks they should switch to primaries. Yet somehow they persist.

It often favors the activist wing of the party who also happen to often be heavily involved party offices. Not just for the Dems, the Ron Paul people took over a few state parties for the Republicans and before that some of the evangelicals.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/31 "2020-02-13T19:00:08Z")

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Sounds like there’s now concern that the software shadow made will not be able to integrate the early voting with the caucus results. They’re making it out like another Iowa if not worse.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/32 "2020-02-14T05:52:28Z")

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The simplicity and planning of Iowa, but held in venues such as liquor stores and casinos. Sounds like it’s going to be great. (Maybe it was the Republican caucus in 2016 that had caucus sites in liquor stores, since their caucuses are simpler and don’t take up as much space, but I definitely remember seeing people lined up between the rows of bottles.)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/33 "2020-02-16T00:39:04Z")

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[Early voting in the Nevada caucus has begun.](https://apnews.com/fc4e3c6c8115c22559abca962c84f989)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/34 "2020-02-16T05:42:42Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> The simplicity and planning of Iowa, but held in venues such as liquor stores and casinos. Sounds like it’s going to be great. (Maybe it was the Republican caucus in 2016 that had caucus sites in liquor stores, since their caucuses are simpler and don’t take up as much space, but I definitely remember seeing people lined up between the rows of bottles.)

Booze also explains a not-unsubstantial portion of the Trump election win.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/35 "2020-02-17T01:36:05Z")

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[‘A complete disaster’: Fears grow over potential Nevada caucus malfunction

Volunteers complain of poor training for a vote-reporting system that was adopted on the fly.]([https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/16/nevada-avoid-iowa-caucus-mess-115437](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/16/nevada-avoid-iowa-caucus-mess-115437)) from Politico

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> Anxiety is rising over the possibility of another tech-induced meltdown at the Nevada Democratic caucuses on Saturday.
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> In interviews, three caucus volunteers described serious concerns about rushed preparations for the Feb. 22 election, including insufficient training for a newly-adopted electronic vote-tally system and confusing instructions on how to administer the caucuses. There are also unanswered questions about the security of Internet connections at some 2,000 precinct sites that will transmit results to a central “war room” set up by the Nevada Democratic Party.  
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> The debacle in Iowa cost one state party chairman his job and threatened the standing of the national party chairman, while casting doubts about whether the results from party-run caucuses can be trusted.
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> Nevada Democratic officials insist they have everything under control. But a repeat of Iowa — or any kind of breakdown — would be disastrous.  
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> “There were old ladies looking at me like, ‘Oh, we’re going to have iPads,’” the volunteer told POLITICO.
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> After sitting through the two-hour training session, the person predicted the caucus would be a “complete disaster.”

This is not sounding good. Hopefully, things turn out better than predicted here.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/36 "2020-02-17T20:08:25Z")

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We have a [new poll](https://www.pointblankpolitical.com/nv-democratic-caucus-2020/) and the leader is …

… Steyer.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/37 "2020-02-17T20:19:20Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> We have a [new poll](https://www.pointblankpolitical.com/nv-democratic-caucus-2020/) and the leader is …
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> … Steyer.

I never whine about rigged polls, but this one is such an outlier. Nevada is impossible to poll anyway.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/38 "2020-02-17T20:22:02Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> We have a [new poll](https://www.pointblankpolitical.com/nv-democratic-caucus-2020/) and the leader is …
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> … Steyer.

> [@dalej42](#):
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> I never whine about rigged polls, but this one is such an outlier. Nevada is impossible to poll anyway.

Who the fuck is Point Blank Political and why should I give them any credence?

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/39 "2020-02-17T20:24:36Z")

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There has been so much focus on Bloomberg that the other billionaire has flown under the radar. Isn’t he also doing well in South Carolina? He obviously can’t win the whole thing but he could muck up the results.

I wonder if the next time round it will be billionaires only in the primaries… Maybe Oprah versus Cuban?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-caucuses-discussion/847822/40 "2020-02-17T21:36:14Z")

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This poll’s not on 538 (at the moment, at least), but [a different poll is](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/nevada/):

WPA Intelligence, rated B/C by 538, 413 LV, in the field Feb. 11-13:

Sanders 25  
Biden 18  
Warren 13  
Steyer 11  
Buttigieg 10  
Klobuchar 10  
Gabbard 0

No significant difference among the Warren/Steyer/Pete/Amy group.

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