# Nevada Democratic Debate February 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 20, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209 "2020-02-20T01:28:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/61 "2020-02-20T03:19:43Z")

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Bloomberg is a smart but utterly unrelatable and unsympathetic man. His confidence comes across as haughty. Once he’s talking he’s not bad to listen to, but he makes it impossible to get past his own negatives.

FFS, he’s smart enough to realize, at least now, that he should get the fuck off the stage and do what he needs to do behind the scenes or from the side of the stage.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/62 "2020-02-20T03:23:02Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Bloomberg puts first point on the board. “I’m the only one here who started a business.”

Not a very necessary qualification to be President.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/63 "2020-02-20T03:23:19Z")

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“Should you have made that much money?”  
“Yes.”

😃 😃 😃

Well, he IS giving a lot away. Is someone else giving more than he is in philanthropy in the US?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/64 "2020-02-20T03:23:33Z")

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Mayor Pete just solidified the LGBTQ vote, and everyone under 45, as well as a huge number of black, Latino and Asian-American votes.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/65 "2020-02-20T03:23:39Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> FFS, he’s smart enough to realize, at least now, that he should get the fuck off the stage and do what he needs to do behind the scenes or from the side of the stage.

Buy the debate hall.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/66 "2020-02-20T03:25:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Not a very necessary qualification to be President.

True. But it’s his only point so far. Let him enjoy it.

And now he draws a penalty for the “Communism” bomb.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/67 "2020-02-20T03:25:57Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> “Should you have made that much money?”  
> “Yes.”
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> 😃 😃 😃
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> Well, he IS giving a lot away. Is someone else giving more than he is in philanthropy in the US?

Jeff Bezos just pledged 10 **b** illion to ameliorating climate change.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/68 "2020-02-20T03:26:29Z")

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I have a much higher opinion of Elizabeth Warren than I did 90 minutes ago.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/69 "2020-02-20T03:26:48Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Well, he IS giving a lot away. Is someone else giving more than he is in philanthropy in the US?

Hoping for the largesse from the ultra rich is not a good economic model for the country and certainly the size of your donations should not be who donates the most.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/70 "2020-02-20T03:27:35Z")

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I’m mainly hearing pipe-dream BS from everyone. Put workers on boards, 50 million on this, $100 mill on that.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/71 "2020-02-20T03:27:53Z")

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Bernie knows why he is there and also sounds like he has been thinking about it a lot so that he doesn’t have to waste any of our time. Liz knows, and she would support Bernie.  
The rest: Do you really think they sound like they know why they are in this, for the US and not ego?

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/72 "2020-02-20T03:29:10Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Bloomberg puts first point on the board. “I’m the only one here who started a business.”

So? Ben Carson was the only surgeon in his debates. Did he seem qualified for…anything?

As a small business owner, and someone involved in a “small business” that is an incorporated city, it drives me nuts that no one ever points out that the best way to lower costs for all businesses and level the playing field is for the government to provide health insurance, not individual businesses.

If Bloomberg comes out with that smart business plan, I’ll give him his point. Otherwise, fuck business owners we’re no more qualified for anything than anyone else.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/73 "2020-02-20T03:29:54Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Not a very necessary qualification to be President.

But it is relevant to discussing starting businesses which was the subject.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Mayor Pete just solidified the LGBTQ vote, and everyone under 45, as well as a huge number of black, Latino and Asian-American votes.

Highly doubt that.  
Bloomberg better second half than first. But low bar and fewer pay attention second half.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/74 "2020-02-20T03:30:08Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Jeff Bezos just pledged 10 **b** illion to ameliorating climate change.

Very good! Let’s get more philanthropy.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/75 "2020-02-20T03:30:52Z")

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Did Klobuchar leave?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/76 "2020-02-20T03:32:55Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Very good! Let’s get more philanthropy.

Philanthropy’s fine, but I agree with **Whack-a-Mole** that relying on philanthropy is a bad plan. I was merely answering your question. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/77 "2020-02-20T03:32:57Z")

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Nah, she’s back.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/78 "2020-02-20T03:33:55Z")

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I am constantly surprised how Buttigieg and others keep laying raising taxes for health care for all gets traction. How hard is it for Sanders to say the vast majority of Americans will save money? Taxes go up, healthcare payments go down more than taxes go up. It is not rocket science.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/79 "2020-02-20T03:34:01Z")

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Bernie just can’t say that taxes will have to go up for everybody to pay for UHC. That’s how Canadians, and the Dutch, and the Germans and the rest of Europe pay for UHC.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-democratic-debate-february-2020/848209/80 "2020-02-20T03:34:52Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Philanthropy’s fine, but I agree with **Whack-a-Mole** that relying on philanthropy is a bad plan. I was merely answering your question. 🙂

Noted. And yes, I agree with that too. It astounds me that we have commercials on TV asking us to give to veterans who aren’t covered. That’s just embarrassing. Of all people that should be covered, we should start with them.

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