# Nevada Senate 2010: Reid vs. Angle **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/181 "2010-10-18T21:21:20Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Angle: “What we know is that our northern border is where the terrorists came through.” “Came through”? Like, past tense? Then tell us which ones! Pretty sure most of the most infamous came through, you know, through the “airport” border. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/182 "2010-10-18T21:28:54Z")
There were a couple of people who came through a Canadian border crossing over the yeara, IIRC, and none that I’m aware of through the Mexican border. So “most” is maybe 2 or 3? I think there was a guy who was gonna bomb a bridge or something in California that came in from Canada. I think Angle is technically correct about this. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/183 "2010-10-18T22:46:34Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > There were a couple of people who came through a Canadian border crossing over the yeara, IIRC, and none that I’m aware of through the Mexican border. So “most” is maybe 2 or 3? > > I think there was a guy who was gonna bomb a bridge or something in California that came in from Canada. I think Angle is technically correct about this. You may be thinking of[Ahmed Ressam](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Ressam) who was plotting to bomb LAX and was caught by a US customs inspector in Port Angeles WA in 1999. He’s the only terrorist that I’m aware of who tried to enter the US through Canada for the past 15+ years. The whole “911 Terrorists came through Canada” bullshit meme is still alive and well, having been repeated by Hilary Clinton and John McCain. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/184 "2010-10-18T23:26:56Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Angle: “What we know is that our northern border is where the terrorists came through.” > > I’ve been under the impression for awhile now that this isn’t true. Am I wrong? [It’s true. Even Michael Moore says so.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon) ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/185 "2010-10-19T01:11:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [It’s true. Even Michael Moore says so.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon) So, when are they going to “start the danged fence?” -Joe ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/186 "2010-10-19T02:13:49Z")
Every time she opens her mouth Reids chances improve, to see her commit gaffe after gaffe this close to the election warms the cockles of my heart. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/187 "2010-10-19T03:51:15Z")
A the heart of my cockle. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/188 "2010-10-19T06:05:41Z")
[ > [@John Ralston](#): > > UPDATE: The Angle campaign says she made that remark about being the first Asian legislator because “a reporter thought she looked Asian.” OK. ]([Angle to Hispanic children: "Some of you look a little more Asian to me" - Las Vegas Sun News](http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2010/oct/18/angle-hispanic-children-some-you-look-little-more-/)) I only wish Mr. Ralston had thought to follow up with “Really? Which reporter was that?” She’ll be the biggest disaster of a senator the state of Nevada has ever had, but at least she’ll keep giving us stuff to point and laugh at. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/189 "2010-10-19T13:38:34Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [url=[Angle to Hispanic children: "Some of you look a little more Asian to me" - Las Vegas Sun News](http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2010/oct/18/angle-hispanic-children-some-you-look-little-more-/)] > I only wish Mr. Ralston had thought to follow up with “Really? Which reporter was that?” > > She’ll be the biggest disaster of a senator the state of Nevada has ever had, but at least she’ll keep giving us stuff to point and laugh at. :rolleyes: I look more Asian than that bleachbag nutcase. And the only way I could get any whiter is if I lived in the sewers, only coming out at night to harvest hobos for organs. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/190 "2010-10-19T13:56:51Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > I look more Asian than that bleachbag nutcase. And the only way I could get any whiter is if I lived in the sewers, only coming out at night to harvest hobos for organs. Call it “an effective free-market solution to the homeless problem” and you’ve got yourself a candidacy. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/191 "2010-10-20T04:46:58Z")
[Story here](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEVADA_SENATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-19-21-29-38). > [@](#): > > A Republican campaign urging Latinos not to vote was yanked from the airwaves Tuesday amid an outcry from Democrats that it was a dirty trick against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in his hotly contested race against Republican Sharron Angle. > [@](#): > > “Don’t vote this November. This is the only way to send them a clear message,” the ad’s narrator announces in Spanish. “You can no longer take us for granted.” And hey, look, I found the English version on youtube: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/192 "2010-10-20T13:40:09Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Story here](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEVADA_SENATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-19-21-29-38). > > And hey, look, I found the English version on youtube: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc) [And this group that ran it, “Latinos for Reform,” is headed by a GOP operative.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/latinos-for-reform-vote-nevada_n_767991.html) See also [SourceWatch.](http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Latinos_for_Reform) > [@](#): > > Latinos for Reform is conservative political action committee that shares the same Alexandria, Virginia post office box as several other registered PACs, including the Virginia Liberty Fund, Storm Chasers, and the American Spirit Fund. The treasurer of all three groups is Republican political operative Susan Arceneaux, and the assistant treasurer of all three groups is Christopher J. Ward. Arceneaux is a resident of Fairfax, Virginia, is a well-connected member of the Republican Party, as well as a "long time aide of Dick Armey, a former Congressman from Texas and a close friend of Bush Jr. Arceneaux also is tied in with a number of other Republican groups close to Bush Jr. NY Times 8/24/04). [1][1] In filings for all three groups, Arceneaux gives her residential address as “10597 John Ayres Drive,” which, along with the Latinos for Reform’s P.O. Box number (P.O. Box 26366, Alexandria, Virginia, 22313), is also the address of the Admiral Roy F. Hoffman Foundation, and the address of Political Compliance Services, a consulting firm operated by Susan Arceneaux, and the same consulting firm used by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.[2] ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/193 "2010-10-20T16:37:58Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > And hey, look, I found the English version on youtube: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc) How are the Republicans able to get around to campaign with balls that big? I love it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/194 "2010-10-21T02:31:22Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > She’s convinced everyone else is as stupid as she is. The question is…is she right? > > -Joe Apparently in Nevada they are. She is running neck and neck with Reid even though she is a complete nutball. She says something new and stupid every day, yet Nevadans are likely to vote her in over an extremely powerful , experienced senator. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/195 "2010-10-21T02:34:14Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [And this group that ran it, “Latinos for Reform,” is headed by a GOP operative.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/latinos-for-reform-vote-nevada_n_767991.html) See also [SourceWatch.](http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Latinos_for_Reform) Well what did you think the Roberts Supreme Court was trying to do? They have succeeded in making the downtrodden under represented rich, finally get a fair shake . And they can do it without public knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/196 "2010-10-21T02:58:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Story here](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEVADA_SENATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-19-21-29-38). > > And hey, look, I found the English version on youtube: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFAiMbm1Fc) > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [And this group that ran it, “Latinos for Reform,” is headed by a GOP operative.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/latinos-for-reform-vote-nevada_n_767991.html) See also [SourceWatch.](http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Latinos_for_Reform) Holy shit. That . . . that . . . ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/197 "2010-10-21T06:16:43Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Well what did you think the Roberts Supreme Court was trying to do? They have succeeded in making the downtrodden under represented rich, finally get a fair shake . And they can do it without public knowledge. The Roberts Court was simply being fair. The rich and poor alike can spend millions on political advertisements anonymously. The law, in its majesty, treats them equally. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/198 "2010-10-21T07:11:43Z")
Under Jim Crow, conservative bigots did everything they could to prevent African Americans from voting. Launching an ad campaign explicitly telling people not to vote is part of this conservative tradition. I’ll remember that the next time that crowd jabbers about founding fathers. Incidentally, the ad objects to the Dems failure to pass immigration reform: what sort of reform is left unsaid, but their end of message moniker “Latinos for Reform” may strike some as misleading. ---
**Author:** ![calgreg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@calgreg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calgreg)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/199 "2010-10-21T23:07:41Z")
Reid will win. Because he is a fairly sensible man. i.e. not a woman. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/200 "2010-10-21T23:50:46Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > The Roberts Court was simply being fair. The rich and poor alike can spend millions on political advertisements anonymously. The law, in its majesty, treats them equally. Not even close. If anyone believes the rich are under represented and not strong enough, they are gulping sophistry like mothers milk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=11)