# Nevada Senate 2010: Reid vs. Angle **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/221 "2010-10-24T01:20:58Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > She could not sway experienced politicians. She would not know who to talk to. Her corporate handlers will guide her. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/222 "2010-10-24T18:20:03Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Her corporate handlers will guide her. They are working hard to disguise her stupidity now. It has proven to be too large a task. She would have to be drugged and led on a leash . Yet a lot of people will vote for her. It is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/223 "2010-10-25T16:38:04Z")
A quick glimpse of reality. Lots of organizations air how much money states get back, compared to how much they pay in. If you are delusional, you can say that is not a measure of a Senator. But outside fantasy land it is a well publicized metric. It is a way of judging the success of your representatives. It has been for a long time. Getting projects for your state is good for employment. It matters. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/224 "2010-10-25T16:46:32Z")
And if someone doesn’t feel like the measure of their representatives is how much they can take from others while giving back the least, they’re stupid? Allocating public resources based on who has the most influence rather than the merits of the project makes us all worse off. Had you merely said “if Reid is elected, Nevada will see more benefits” I probably wouldn’t have commented on anything, but you were talking about how stupid and inept the voting public was that they weren’t jumping at the chance to try to boost their own backyard at the expensive of everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/225 "2010-10-25T17:05:00Z")
I created a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13063836) to discuss the issue of representatives trying to steer public resources into their districts. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/226 "2010-10-27T18:58:56Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Doubtful. The project is dead. It was a stupid plan, anyway. Wait, what?! What could possibly make more sense than turning Nevada into a nuclear-waste dump?! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/227 "2010-10-27T19:00:10Z")
Meanwhile, [allegations of voter fraud/voter intimidation are flying back and forth.](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/27/allegations-of-voter-fraud-fly-in-nv-senate-race/) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/228 "2010-10-27T20:12:09Z")
Sounds like Nevada might get a few months of lawsuits before seating someone if the race is close enough… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/229 "2010-10-27T20:49:26Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Meanwhile, [allegations of voter fraud/voter intimidation are flying back and forth.](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/27/allegations-of-voter-fraud-fly-in-nv-senate-race/) I voted early today (I will be unable to reach a polling place on 2 November), and the lady next to me was complaining loudly that she had voted for Sharron Angle and the machine wasn’t showing her vote. “I voted for her and now the machine isn’t showing the vote!” Duh, lady, it only shows the vote if you go back to that screen or continue to “review your ballot”, plus you can print your ballot so there’s a paper record, and it’s on the printout as well. But since I was voting, I didn’t want to say anything, because I know they have people to help out. A voter aide came and helped walk her thru the “review your ballot” steps, very patiently explaining that you have to hit the “next” arrow to make the screens change, etc. He was extremely polite, and eventually the voter was satisfied. He said he was happy to help, told her she was all done and could leave, gestured towards the exit, **and she went the wrong way anyway** , trying to push past the aide back towards the entrance. He stood firm, blocking the narrow aisle, and gestured again while thanking her for voting, explained again that the exit was the other way, and she finally got it and left. I heard the lady who collects the voter cards and gives out the nifty “I Voted” stickers call out to her that she had to turn in her card; she tried to leave with it still in her hand, like it was a souvenir. As far as I’m concerned, that’s a typical Angle voter: stupid, confused, and with delusions of persecution. It doesn’t surprise me that the GOP filed a 44 page complaint, since their goal is to grind the wheels of democracy into rectangles, obstructing all movement if they can’t get their way. Or even if they _think_ they can’t get their way. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/230 "2010-10-29T08:06:00Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > As far as I’m concerned, that’s a typical Angle voter: stupid, confused, and with delusions of persecution. As I was voting early a couple days ago, at the voting station closest to the exit, another voter came up to hand his card to the “I voted!” guy at the ballot box, and as he handed the guy his card, he said loudly, “Did you know Harry Reid is a fucking traitor?” The poor old man at the ballot box said, “What?” “I said, did you know Harry Reid is a fucking traitor, and the city manager is a fucking bitch who should be fired?” “Uh …” said the old man. “No…” At this point another worker came up and said “Sir, you need to calm down and leave, NOW.” He left without saying another word. It was the only time I’ve ever seen anything even remotely out of the ordinary happen at a voting place around here. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/231 "2010-10-29T13:04:36Z")
> [@chorpler](#): > > He left without saying another word. It was the only time I’ve ever seen anything even remotely out of the ordinary happen at a voting place around here. Yeah, it’s weird. It’s almost like a major political party and a major media outlet have spent two years doing nothing but riling up the idjits. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/232 "2010-10-29T14:05:02Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Yeah, it’s weird. It’s almost like a major political party and a major media outlet have spent two years doing nothing but riling up the idjits. > > -Joe ^ 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/233 "2010-10-30T00:26:45Z")
[ > [@Cleta Mitchell](#): > > Harry Reid intends to steal this election if he can’t win it outright. ]([http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/29/questions-about-elections-legitimacy-are-new-low/](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/29/questions-about-elections-legitimacy-are-new-low/)) Can you guess who Cleta Mitchell is? She’s Sharron Angle’s lawyer. SURPRISE! So now the Repubs in Nevada have: A. Urged Hispanics not to vote. B. Called Hispanics “Asian-looking”. C. Aired TV ads implying that Hispanics are thugs. D. Accused Harry Reid of stealing an election that hasn’t even happened yet. E. Accused the SEIU of hacking Nevada’s voting machines. F. Accused Rory Reid of some kind of shenanigans because he is the chairman of the Clark County Commission, which oversees elections in Clark County. G. Said the citizens of the US are “spoiled” because of social welfare programs. H. Called Mormons cult members. (Ok, that was just Sharron Angle’s pastor. But he’s a registered Repub, so it counts.) I. Caused at least 2 fights at public appearances in the last 60 days. Did I miss any? The next couple of years are gonna be AWESOME! for Nevada. And when I say “AWESOME!”, I of course mean “shit-tastic!”. The best part is gonna be how in 2012, they continue to blame Reid, even tho Angle’s been in office for 2 years at that point. Want to bet that the rhetoric from the right becomes “no way we could fix all the problems they created in just 2 years”? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/234 "2010-10-30T03:51:29Z")
Yep, it seems that [ol’ John has drunk the kool-aid](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEVADA_SENATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-29-23-27-16). > [@](#): > > Sen. John McCain delivered a rousing endorsement of Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle in an election year that he said would change America. > > Speaking at a rally at a Las Vegas casino, the 2008 Republican presidential nominee urged hundreds of cheering supporters to retire Majority Leader Harry Reid after four terms in Washington. > > He embraced Angle on stage ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/235 "2010-10-30T05:42:37Z")
They’ve updated the article I linked to in my previous post. Who was asking if there’s something wrong with the way Nevadans think? > [@](#): > > “I don’t like the way the country has been going for the past two years,” said Torneskog, a conservative Republican who voted for John McCain in 2008. “Harry Reid is too old, he’s got old views that are out-of-date.” Good idea! Get rid of the 70 year old. That’s far too old and out of touch with today’s modern age! I just _know_ that a younger person, like say, a 61 year old, will have a much more up-to-date perspective! I mean, 9 years to a dog is like 54 years, and that would make Harry Reid, um, one plus four… carry the five… plus 9… um, 79 years old in dog years, times 7, is uh… _waaaaaay_ too old! :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/236 "2010-10-30T20:53:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Yep, it seems that [ol’ John has drunk the kool-aid](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEVADA_SENATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-29-23-27-16). This is the same old bastard who has been fixing Washington since 1983 or so? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/237 "2010-10-30T21:09:08Z")
Harry Reid strikes me as someone who has grown to love power so much that he feels he is entitled to it. Many people in Nevada feel that way too and would vote for a steaming pile of poop instead of Reid. After all, its not like you can’t vote the poop out in the next election. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/238 "2010-10-30T21:11:51Z")
> [@Enuma\_Elish](#): > > Harry Reid strikes me as someone who has grown to love power so much that he feels he is entitled to it. Many people in Nevada feel that way too and would vote for a steaming pile of poop instead of Reid. After all, its not like you can’t vote the poop out in the next election. What has he said or done that gives you that impression? ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/239 "2010-10-30T21:17:07Z")
Forcing bills through without allowing them to be read. Thinking the government has the right to force citizens to purchase health care even if the citizens don’t want to. We had a revolution about who gets to tax and why. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/240 "2010-10-30T21:19:51Z")
He did this alone, or are you saying we should vote against all democrats regardless of who’s running against them? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=13)