# Nevada Senate 2010:  Reid vs. Angle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/281 "2010-11-03T04:10:01Z")

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If Harry Reid loses to Angle he has nobody to blame but himself.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/282 "2010-11-03T04:21:21Z")

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And the electorate. They play a small role in this from what I understand.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/283 "2010-11-03T04:24:04Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> If Harry Reid loses to Angle he has nobody to blame but himself.

And he has Angle to thank when he wins.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/284 "2010-11-03T04:27:19Z")

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Colorado’s Senate race just moved into a virtual tie as the El Paso County votes (Colorado Springs) came in. Bennet (D) still leads by 6000 votes, and while the remaining counties are probably going to lean Republican, most of them have only a couple thousand votes in total. I expect it will be a slight win for Bennet, but may be subject to a recount.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/285 "2010-11-03T04:28:12Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> And the electorate. They play a small role in this from what I understand.

He is a long-term incumbent and the Senate Majority Leader. He has a long record to run on. If he gets voted out after 24 years, is it really right to blame the electorate for his demise? If you get fired from a job after 24 years it’s on you, not your bosses.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/286 "2010-11-03T04:43:03Z")

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CNN has projected Harry Reid will beat Sharron Angle in Nevada.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/287 "2010-11-03T04:45:07Z")

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It’s looking like Reid actually got a slim majority, and beat Angle by close to 7%. She’s already threatened a recount, but I have to wonder if she’s got the cash on hand to fund it. According to our statutes, she has to pay the estimated cost upfront.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/288 "2010-11-03T04:48:36Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> It’s looking like Reid actually got a slim majority, and beat Angle by close to 7%. She’s already threatened a recount, but I have to wonder if she’s got the cash on hand to fund it. According to our statutes, she has to pay the estimated cost upfront.

The corporate PACs will open their wallets.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/289 "2010-11-03T16:06:25Z")

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With a nut coming relatively close, you gotta think that if the Republicans had nominated a reasonable, likable guy then they’d have that seat.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/290 "2010-11-03T16:36:17Z")

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The Tea Bagger goofy candidates lost probably costing the Repuibs control of the Senate. They served the Dems well.

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**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/291 "2010-11-03T19:30:12Z")

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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > That is standard operating procedure. The Repubs jammed lots of bills through during Bush without permitting the senate or the house to read them. Why is it wrong for Reid, if he did it, and right for the Repubs.  
> > The bills do not suddenly appear. They are thrashed over in committee with both sides represented. The party members are kept up with the procedings. They do not appear on the floor in a puff of smoke.

Your assumptions are wrong. I did not like it when the Republicans did it. I don’t like it when any one in power does it. I hate the my-way-or-the-highway think of both parties.

What the Democrats do that bugs me is this: They clearly recognize power-play asshattery when the Republicans do it, but when the Democrats gain control, instead of saying, “Forcing bills through without allowing them to be read is wrong on a fundamental level and we are not going to do that.” they say,“Well they did it, so we get to do it too (even though we previously were clear that it is wrong.)”

And vice-versa.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/292 "2010-11-03T19:33:11Z")

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We’re talking about the health care bill that had weeks of debate where the democrats accepted hundreds of republican amendments (including cutting out the public option, possibly the most significant part of the legislation) and then the republicans instead proposed “let’s scrap the whole thing” instead of a real counter-proposal and voted against it, right?

If anything, the democrats are making too much effort to be bipartisan and accepting of people who are acting like insolent children.

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**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/293 "2010-11-03T19:35:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > At this point it would behoove you to admit that you were talking about only one BILL, and there are no other examples of other bills, and you typed the extra “S” in BILLS in error.

Fine. Technically, the Omnibus bill was one bill. However, referring to a multi-thousand page monstrosity pieced together from multiple sources in the singular makes my sphincter pucker.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/294 "2010-11-03T20:08:37Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> She’s a fucking liar. A cheat. A lunatic. And most likely, our next United States Senator. Good job, Nevada; good job.

**Bo** , you don’t mind if I rub your nose in this post, do you?

😃

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/295 "2010-11-03T21:13:33Z")

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Passing a bill without letting anyone read it would be wrong no matter who did it. But the Democrats didn’t do that. My senator read the bill; did yours?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/296 "2010-11-09T21:25:07Z")

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[Interesting Post story](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/09/AR2010110900153.html?wpisrc=nl_pmpolitics): Angle’s campaign spent $97 per vote she received, Reid’s campagn spent $69 per vote he received.

If she had skipped all the adds and gone to direct voter payments, she couldda won.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/297 "2010-11-09T21:32:26Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> [Interesting Post story](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/09/AR2010110900153.html?wpisrc=nl_pmpolitics): Angle’s campaign spent $97 per vote she received, Reid’s campagn spent $69 per vote he received.
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> If she had skipped all the adds and gone to direct voter payments, she couldda won.

$97? That’s chickenfeed compared to the big bucks people make being unemployed. Spoiled citizenry and all, ya know. 😉

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/298 "2010-11-09T21:43:30Z")

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In my experience, Reid went for direct mailings. The Republicans (not necessarily Angle) went for robocalls. I found one slightly more annoying. Reid’s ad campaign was actually interesting, it just got repetitive when I got the same thing over and over again.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/299 "2010-11-09T21:49:02Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> With a nut coming relatively close, you gotta think that if the Republicans had nominated a reasonable, likable guy then they’d have that seat.

Hell, they could have nominated that idiot Sue Lowden with the chicken based healthcare plan and very likely won.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/300 "2010-11-09T22:19:50Z")

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So she lost should we be expecting ‘second amendment remedies’ soon?

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