# Nevada Senate 2010: Reid vs. Angle **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/301 "2010-11-09T22:45:23Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > [Interesting Post story](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/09/AR2010110900153.html?wpisrc=nl_pmpolitics): Angle’s campaign spent $97 per vote she received, Reid’s campagn spent $69 per vote he received. > > If she had skipped all the adds and gone to direct voter payments, she couldda won. It turn out 69 is kind of a magic number for many Nevadans. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/302 "2010-11-09T23:18:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > It turn out 69 is kind of a magic number for many Nevadans. 😛 We tend to think of 00 as having more mojo. You can buy or cajole your way to a 69; you just have to be lucky to get a 00. It’s like I always say: I’d rather be lucky than good. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/303 "2010-11-09T23:48:24Z")
So what went wrong for Sharon Angle in Nevada? she was ahead on most polls and looked to be about to pull it off then goes and gets creamed in the election. Was it all the crazy she let loose right at the end of the campaign that did her in? (the mexicans look asian thing, and the town which does not exist living under sharia law thing). ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/304 "2010-11-09T23:52:24Z")
The Mexican/Asian thing hurt her some. The sharia law thing went over everyone’s head that wasn’t already going to vote against her. What hurt her the most was the short-lived ad portraying over 1/4 of the state’s population as thugs & criminals. [Here’s a video showing the video from the ad, with the audio from her Rancho High School appearance superimposed](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z_3uRxLiXI). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/305 "2010-11-10T00:30:15Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > Hell, they could have nominated that idiot Sue Lowden with the chicken based healthcare plan and very likely won. Oh, that was Lowden? All this time I thought it was Angle. It seemed consistent with her personality. Woops. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/306 "2010-11-10T00:41:11Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > We tend to think of 00 as having more mojo. You can buy or cajole your way to a 69; you just have to be lucky to get a 00. > > It’s like I always say: I’d rather be lucky than good. Wait, isn’t 00 the space on the roulette wheel that means the house wins every chip on the table? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/307 "2010-11-10T00:59:04Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Wait, isn’t 00 the space on the roulette wheel that means the house wins every chip on the table? Not if you bet on 00, they don’t. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/308 "2010-11-10T01:07:18Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Not if you bet on 00, they don’t. 😃 I thought it was also the one you couldn’t bet on. Whoosh? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/309 "2010-11-10T01:16:25Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I thought it was also the one you couldn’t bet on. Whoosh? I’m pretty sure you can bet on any number. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/310 "2010-11-10T01:17:13Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I thought it was also the one you couldn’t bet on. Whoosh? I don’t gamble, but I called a couple of my buddies who do, and they’re telling me that yes, you can bet 00. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/311 "2010-11-10T01:21:49Z")
The edge in roulette comes from pretending the 0 and 00 aren’t there for payoff purposes (ie the actual chances of hitting any number are 1 in 38, numbers 1-36+0+00 but you only get paid off 36:1), which makes betting them the same as any other number. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/312 "2010-11-10T02:27:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The Mexican/Asian thing hurt her some. The sharia law thing went over everyone’s head that wasn’t already going to vote against her. > > What hurt her the most was the short-lived ad portraying over 1/4 of the state’s population as thugs & criminals. [Here’s a video showing the video from the ad, with the audio from her Rancho High School appearance superimposed](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z_3uRxLiXI). A quarter of Nevada’s population is comprised of illegal aliens? And they can vote? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/313 "2010-11-10T03:34:32Z")
> [@](#): > > We tend to think of 00 as having more mojo. Hey, that’s the amount _I_ spent per voter in Nevada, why didn’t I get elected to the Senate? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/314 "2010-11-10T07:37:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Hey, that’s the amount _I_ spent per voter in Nevada, why didn’t I get elected to the Senate? Dude, you aren’t nearly crazy enough for Nevada. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/315 "2010-11-10T18:19:54Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The edge in roulette comes from pretending the 0 and 00 aren’t there for payoff purposes (ie the actual chances of hitting any number are 1 in 38, numbers 1-36+0+00 but you only get paid off 36:1), which makes betting them the same as any other number. They also tip the odds to the house for the even money bets, as they count neither red, black, odd, or even. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/316 "2010-11-10T19:03:23Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > A quarter of Nevada’s population is comprised of illegal aliens? And they can vote? Look at the ad linked in your previous reply. See the people shown at 9 seconds in. What identifies them as “illegal?” The backwards baseball cap? The hoodie? The whispy mustache? Or is it that they are a bit swarthy? I can see why Latinos are sensitive about the inference that brown skin in the Southwest means illegal alien. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/317 "2010-11-10T19:16:03Z")
What image would you use to identify illegal aliens when you were discussing them? Keep them all in shadow so no one would get offended when the ethnic group that constitutes the vast majority of illegal aliens was shown? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/318 "2010-11-10T19:33:25Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What image would you use to identify illegal aliens when you were discussing them? Keep them all in shadow so no one would get offended when the ethnic group that constitutes the vast majority of illegal aliens was shown? If memory serves, Mrs. Angle attempted to say that was what her ad showed. I seem to recall her saying that the image of shadowy people sneaking along the fence (I believe it was in the same ad I referenced) could have been a reference to a Canadian fence. That’s not me who suggested it, that’s Mrs. Angle describing her own ads (albeit erroneously). If I were Latino, and a candidate ran ads showing nondescript Latino people with the word ILLEGAL highlighted on them, I would question whether that candidate is sensitive to the fact that honest, hard-working, born-in-the-USA Latinos might not appreciate the association between my skin color and being an “ILLEGAL.” So, Hispanics voted against Angle in significant numbers, and for the guy who appeared to be more sensitive to the racial aspects of the issue. Angle made her bed, now she’s laying in it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/319 "2010-11-10T19:55:46Z")
And what are you going to show if you want to convey illegal aliens? Show some random white people and say “THERE ARE A FEW CANADIAN ILLEGALS TOO!” just to be super PC? Just seems like manufactured controversy to me. Yes, obviously there are lots of legal, hardworking etc etc hispanics, but if you were to put a face to the general group of illegal aliens, it would logically be a hispanic one. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/320 "2010-11-10T20:12:26Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Look at the ad linked in your previous reply. See the people shown at 9 seconds in. What identifies them as “illegal?” Uh, the fact that the words “Illegal Aliens” or “Illegals” are flashed continuously across the bottom of the ad whenever they are shown? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=17)