# Nevada Senate 2010:  Reid vs. Angle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/61 "2010-08-18T21:02:15Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> There is no end goal that anyone has, yet they are always talking about mythical end-goals that they are fighting against.

I agree with you in general, but wanted to add that a recent, frightening, GOP end-goal was the formation of a “permanent Republican majority.”

In other words, a _de facto_ one-party state.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/62 "2010-08-19T17:24:42Z")

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There are Arizonans on this board and I bet some will vote for Angle. Many say they vote for the best “man” when they vote. Angle makes that defense impossible. They will be voting on right wing/tea bagger ideology. They will have an idiot in charge for 6 years.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/63 "2010-08-19T18:00:12Z")

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[Sharron Angle Campaigned Against Black Football Jerseys On Religious Grounds: Color is 'Thoroughly Evil' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/19/sharron-angle-campaigned-_n_687510.html) Apparently she has always been a bigot and a nut.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/64 "2010-08-19T18:59:09Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> There are Arizonans on this board and I bet some will vote for Angle. Many say they vote for the best “man” when they vote. Angle makes that defense impossible. They will be voting on right wing/tea bagger ideology. They will have an idiot in charge for 6 years.

Dude, this is the second time in this thread you’ve made this mistake. Arizona and Nevada are not synonyms, they’re actually two separate places.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/65 "2010-08-19T19:58:06Z")

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Just remember that Nevada’s the one that’s got that funny angle in its border.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/66 "2010-08-19T22:15:12Z")

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Sorry. But they look the same from here.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/67 "2010-08-20T00:05:36Z")

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Must be hard to see from over there in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/68 "2010-08-20T01:45:58Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Must be hard to see from over there in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.

He’s not in Wisconsin!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/69 "2010-08-20T02:05:17Z")

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As opposed to the Land of 10,000,000 Flakes, which is right next to Nevada.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/70 "2010-08-20T02:13:30Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Sorry. But they look the same from here.

What’s your excuse for popping into a thread that is clearly labelled as being about the Nevada Senate race, and bashing Arizonans for voting for the Nevadan candidate? Neither state, by the way, will be electing an idiot in charge for the next six years. Both states have four year terms for governor, and that also is not the focus of the thread.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/71 "2010-08-20T02:21:25Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Sorry. But they look the same from here.
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> What’s your excuse for popping into a thread that is clearly labelled as being about the Nevada Senate race, and bashing Arizonans for voting for the Nevadan candidate? Neither state, by the way, will be electing an idiot in charge for the next six years. Both states have four year terms for governor, and that also is not the focus of the thread.

On that latter note, Republican Nevadans had the opportunity to reelect an idiot in charge, and declined to do so, instead opting for a Hispanic moderate\*.

\*I think he’s considered one. Rory “No Relation to Harry” Reid of course portrays him as far right, but Sandoval is not a Tea Partier.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/72 "2010-08-20T16:43:49Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Sorry. But they look the same from here.

Aren’t you in Michigan?

Because I am too. And yet I can still tell the difference between Nevada and Arizona.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/73 "2010-08-20T18:00:04Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Sorry. But they look the same from here.

Actually, they’re variant names for the same place. You know, like England and Britain, or Holland and the Netherlands, or China and Japan.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/74 "2010-08-20T18:22:48Z")

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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/75 "2010-08-22T17:53:42Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

That was the **Jews,** remember?! “Torah, Torah, Torah!”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/76 "2010-08-24T14:33:54Z")

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[Politico has it here](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41399.html). The LVRJ ran a story today as well, but I won’t even post a link to it [because I don’t want to find myself or the Dope being sued over it](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/16/3-suits-over-alleged-r-j-copyright-infringements-b/). If you want to read that one, you’ll have to google for it yourself.

Anyway, the apparent sticking point was that Reid wanted to set the date for 21 October, to be sure that the Senate would have adjourned. The problem is that early voting in Nevada starts 16 October, and Angle wanted the debate held before voting begins (of course).

So now the debate is set for 14 October, that being one week after the Senate is scheduled to adjourn.

Voters will get 1 hour at 6pm to watch the two answer questions in what seems to be a pretty standard format with Mitch Fox of PBS moderating. C-SPAN may cover it as well.

I say, good. Finally. A chance to see and hear both of them unedited is long overdue for Nevadans, and if the rest of the country wants to watch our politics this year too, well, I think it will at least be entertaining, just maybe in an old Chinese curse kind of way.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/77 "2010-08-24T16:29:16Z")

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This reminds me of when I moved to Phoenix and my best friend wrote a song about it with the line, “why’d your punk ass have to move to Nevada?”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/78 "2010-08-26T16:35:32Z")

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Making the news today is [a story about a radio interview that Sharron Angle did](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/sharron_angle_agrees_we_have_d.html) with Bill Manders, a conservative radio talk show host in Reno, NV.

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> MANDERS: We have domestic enemies. We have home-born homegrown enemies in our system. And I for one think we have some of those enemies in the walls of the Senate and the Congress.
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> ANGLE: Yes. I think you’re right, Bill.

Harry Reid released this statement:

> [@Harry Reid](#):
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> Sharron Angle’s rhetoric is irresponsible and over the top. Let me be very clear. While I may have some differences of opinion with my Republican colleagues in the Senate, I have never questioned their patriotism. For Sharron Angle to agree that any of them – Republican or Democrat – is an enemy of the state is not only an insult to every United States Senator, it’s a disgrace to our country. If she is going to use such rhetoric, she has an obligation to name names and explain to the American people exactly who she thinks is a domestic enemy.

Reid also apparently has 2 new video ads which ask Mrs. Angle to please identify who she thinks are the domestic enemies currently sitting in Congress. Her campaign has responded with “Sharron Angle never said we have domestic enemies in Congress”.

The debate is gonna be a doozy if anyone ever asks her to explain what she means by anything she ever says. I don’t think she can do it and be coherent at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/79 "2010-08-27T09:37:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Her campaign has responded with “Sharron Angle never said we have domestic enemies in Congress”.

Technically speaking, she didn’t _say_ it. She just agreed with the guy who did.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/80 "2010-08-27T13:22:13Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > Her campaign has responded with “Sharron Angle never said we have domestic enemies in Congress”.
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> Technically speaking, she didn’t _say_ it. She just agreed with the guy who did.

Right, but technically speaking, no one has said she said it. That’s why the denials from Ms. Angle’s camp are so funny.

There was a poll in the paper today (the LVRJ) where they asked people if they would rather someone else was nominated than Reid and Angle.

Reid had 18% of likely Reid voters say they wished a different Democrat was nominated.

Angle had 66% of likely Angle voters say they wished a different Republican was nominated.

If Angle can’t even convince the flock who are already commited to voting for her that it’s a good idea to do so, there’s no way in hell she’s going to convince people who aren’t already idealogically _sympatico_ to check the box next to her name. And I can’t help but think that many principled Republicans will see that this lady would be a disastrous puppet in the Senate and thus Reid will gain votes that Angle loses. To me, that says this will be a victory for Reid in November.

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