# Nevada Senate 2010: Reid vs. Angle **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/81 "2010-08-29T03:19:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > Sorry. But they look the same from here. > > Actually, they’re variant names for the same place. You know, like England and Britain, or Holland and the Netherlands, or China and Japan. You do know how much they scream about porous borders, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/82 "2010-08-31T12:05:26Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > And I can’t help but think that many principled Republicans will see that this lady would be a disastrous puppet in the Senate and thus Reid will gain votes that Angle loses. I suspect they’ll simply not vote at all, although it’ll still likely throw the contest to Reid. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/83 "2010-08-31T19:38:55Z")
Nevada actually has a literal “None of the above” option on their ballots. And yes, Reid is hoping that “nobody” will split the vote with Angle. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/84 "2010-08-31T23:23:55Z")
The LVRJ did a feature on the 2 candidates today, asking them each a handful of questions and printing their responses. Most of it was tepid campaign rhetoric, but I did notice that Ms. Angle’s foreign policy would seemingly consist of listening to our military leaders. Every question that touched on any other country and she whipped out the “I would listen to our military commanders” line. We really don’t want our military conducting ALL of our foreign relations, Ms. Angle. There’s a reason we have the State Dept. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/85 "2010-08-31T23:26:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Nevada actually has a literal “None of the above” option on their ballots. And yes, Reid is hoping that “nobody” will split the vote with Angle. Correct, but you didn’t explain how our law works: the candidate with the most votes wins. NOTA is just a protest slot on our ballots; a candidate wins every race. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/86 "2010-09-01T02:39:39Z")
Right, I’m just saying that if a lot of folks don’t want to vote for either, they have a very formal and official way of doing so. ---
**Author:** ![legalsnugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@legalsnugs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legalsnugs)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/87 "2010-09-01T16:24:34Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > Sorry. But they look the same from here. > > Actually, they’re variant names for the same place. You know, like England and Britain, or Holland and the Netherlands, or China and Japan. Okay, I LOL’d out loud. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/88 "2010-09-04T04:49:07Z")
We had 2 new Angle stories here today. [First up, Ms. Angle is trying to distance herself from comments made in April](http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/damon-political-report/2010/aug/31/angle-explains/) about how the nation’s entitlement programs broke the Christian religion’s First Commandment. Asked to clarify those comments, Ms. Angle first replied: > [@Sharron Angle](#): > > That’s not what I said. She continued, as if it was actually explaining anything: > [@Sharron Angle](#): > > You speak in the language of the folks that you’re communicating with and I was speaking in their language. And the language that I used is that our country, we have become a country that has put our faith, not in ‘God we trust’, which is on our money, but in government we trust and that is what I was referring to. We have allowed government to take the place of God. Let’s back up to “that’s not what I said” for a second. Here’s what she says she didn’t say: > [@Sharron Angle](#): > > And these programs that you mentioned, that Obama has going with Reid and Pelosi pushing them forward, are all entitlement programs built to make government our God. And that’s really what’s happening in this country is a violation of the First Commandment. [The other development also involves something that Ms. Angle both did and did not say](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/03/sharron-angle-hit-r-j-copyright-lawsuit/): the Las Vegas Review-Journal has filed a copyright infringement suit against her. > [@](#): > > The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas by Righthaven LLC, seeks damages of $150,000 against Angle personally and forfeiture of her website domain name [sharronangle.com](http://sharronangle.com). Y’all prolly thought I was joking earlier in the thread about not even posting links to LVRJ sites for fear of copyright lawsuits, dintcha? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/89 "2010-09-15T14:43:44Z")
Angle has a new ploy "earned media strategy ". She will not talk to any media that has shown to be tough or unfriendly. She is complaining that some media have "used her words against her’. Can’t have that. She had rejected debating Reid because she wants an “informed electorate”. How does that make sense? ---
**Author:** ![legalsnugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@legalsnugs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legalsnugs)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/90 "2010-09-15T18:12:23Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Angle has a new ploy "earned media strategy ". She will not talk to any media that has shown to be tough or unfriendly. She is complaining that some media have "used her words against her’. Can’t have that. > She had rejected debating Reid because she wants an “informed electorate”. How does that make sense? Last June, she said on on _Face to Face_ that she wanted to debate Reid. > [@](#): > > "What I would like to see is Harry Reid come into this studio with you and I and have a true debate,” Angle said. On September 9, Harry Reid’s peeps accepted the invitation to debate on _Face to Face_, and Team Angle agreed to a date. So, then, on that same day, Team Angle promptly withdrew. Two hours later, they sent out a press release saying Angle was going to debate at a high school. > [@](#): > > “She’s going to be there by herself but they called it a free-flowing debate with Reid, which was totally disingenuous." Jon Ralston [Cite](http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/not_happy_sharron.php). Angle is not the only one who’s nuts on Team Angle. Too bad. That would be one political debate I would pay to see! ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/91 "2010-09-15T18:32:19Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > She had rejected debating Reid because she wants an “informed electorate”. How does that make sense? Reid’s people had this quip in response to her cancelling the debate in order to promote “an informed electorate:” “It takes an honest politician to acknowledge that listening to her for an hour would leave the populace less informed.” ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/92 "2010-09-15T18:47:53Z")
Angle may have been good looking when she was young. She may have been kind of acute. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/93 "2010-09-15T19:02:12Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Angle may have been good looking when she was young. She may have been kind of acute. Yeah, but she’s become really obtuse now. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/94 "2010-09-15T20:22:37Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > It’s obvious that God wants Reid to win this election, otherwise why would He bother creating Sharron Angle? She makes Rand Paul look like a great statesman. She makes Sarah Palin look like a policy wonk. Good heavens, what were Nevada voters thinking to nominate her? The US primary process has no method of selecting based on merit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/95 "2010-09-15T22:10:51Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > She had rejected debating Reid because she wants an “informed electorate”. How does that make sense? > > Reid’s people had this quip in response to her cancelling the debate in order to promote “an informed electorate:” > > “It takes an honest politician to acknowledge that listening to her for an hour would leave the populace less informed.” _Zing!_ That is a refreshingly clever comeback in the context of a political campaign. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/96 "2010-09-15T23:18:22Z")
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/97 "2010-09-19T21:53:18Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Holy Toledo! That’s some House-of-Rep-style crazy. Or even worse, state senate dumb coming from Angle. > > [Angle on Fox News Reporting](http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/node/38746) > > > [@](#): > > > > Cameron: There was a tremendous amount of discussion about Sharron Angle’s taking the defensive posture. > > > > Angle: We needed to have the press be our friend. > > > > Cameron: Wait a minute! Hold on a second… to be your friend? > > > > Angle: Well truly… > > > > Cameron: It sounds lame… > > > > Angle: Well, no, no, we wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer so that they report the news the way we want it to be reported and when I get on a show and I say send me money to [SharronAngle.com](http://SharronAngle.com), so that your listeners will know that if they want to support me they need to go to [SharronAngle.com](http://SharronAngle.com). > > You know what? I take that back. She’s not dumb. She just honest. It’s so rare to see honesty in a politician these days, I mistook it for insanity. That is why Fox Gnus was invented. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/98 "2010-09-20T00:56:24Z")
If I ran a media outlet, and this trend of politicians, who choose not to engage, because they deem me not to be their shill, became a problem, I would start to run whatever their opponent came up with: Some claim that Ms Engel is a “syphilitic lunatic”. Ms Engel did not directly refute the charges and declined comment. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/99 "2010-09-21T03:16:21Z")
I’m glad I stumbled upon this thread— as a Californian who comes to Vegas every two weeks for work, I’m inundated with this race for a week a month. No matter how much I try to describe its ridiculousness to my friends back home, nobody gets it. You guys get it and for that, I thank you. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/100 "2010-09-21T03:42:42Z")
I saw my first Angle commercial a little while back. Her affect was so flat, I was expecting to count her blinks in Morse code, so that we can know she is safe and her captors have not yet brainwashed her. Perhaps they could train her to be a decent Senate candidate, but I’m not holding my breath. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515.md?page=6)