# Nevada Senate 2010:  Reid vs. Angle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 29, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515 "2010-07-29T22:32:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/141 "2010-10-15T03:53:37Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> > she talked a lot about things she would do that would create jobs and stop people from losing their jobs.
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> Such as?

_Things._

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/142 "2010-10-15T12:43:56Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> > Two people were cited for disorderly conduct
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> I often think our justice system comes down too hard on people, but spraying pepper spray into a crowd of your political opponents seems a lot more serious than disorderly conduct to me.

Do you know who ELSE ran a self-proclaimed right-wing revolutionary movement that engaged in violence only to be treated with kid gloves by the judges?

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/143 "2010-10-15T16:21:11Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> > [@Cisco](#):
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> > I often think our justice system comes down too hard on people, but spraying pepper spray into a crowd of your political opponents seems a lot more serious than disorderly conduct to me.
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> Do you know who ELSE ran a self-proclaimed right-wing revolutionary movement that engaged in violence only to be treated with kid gloves by the judges?

Obama? The answer is Obama, right? What do I win?

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**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/144 "2010-10-15T16:38:20Z")

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She went on and on about how devastating “Obamacare” will be to Medicare, then went on and on about how the government needs to stay out of healthcare. This cognitive disconnect seems to have become so common that even Harry Reid didn’t seem to notice.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/145 "2010-10-15T16:45:42Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> > [@Ludovic](#):
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> > Do you know who ELSE ran a self-proclaimed right-wing revolutionary movement that engaged in violence only to be treated with kid gloves by the judges?
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> Obama? The answer is Obama, right? What do I win?

Correct! I award you one Barney Frank award for Interplanetary Exploration 😉

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/146 "2010-10-15T16:46:49Z")

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I watch Lawrence O’Donnell’s show last night, and the buzz about the debate was very disappointing. According to the pundit there, Reid seemed really detached, spoke in “WashingtonSpeak” - which is apparently one of the things he is most hated for, and never really went after Angle for all her crazy. They showed some clips where he repeatedly called her views “extreme”, but IMO he didn’t make it real clear why and how they are extreme.

I fear he’s circling the drain. He is an absolutely terrible majority leader anyway, so at least there’s a silver lining if he goes down. I can only hope that the next senior Dem doesn’t turn into the minority leader.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/147 "2010-10-15T17:18:19Z")

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Reid is an extremely powerful senator. Angle would be a beginner who would just run around insulting the other senators. You don’t vote away your power because he lacks charisma. You don’t open the door for a complete nut to walk in.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/148 "2010-10-15T17:21:17Z")

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What are the people of Nevada like, really, that this woman is even a serious candidate?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/149 "2010-10-15T17:36:06Z")

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Possibly all that nuclear fallout…?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/150 "2010-10-15T17:53:51Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What are the people of Nevada like, really, that this woman is even a serious candidate?

Eh, you could nominate a dead monkey and enough people would vote party line to make it a competitive race. The actual candidates are almost irrelevant - people are so entrenched into their tribal partisan party battles that they’ll vote party line no matter what. There’s probably no one the Republicans could nominate that would get any less than 40% of the vote.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/151 "2010-10-15T18:30:20Z")

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Angle is a silver lining option? She is an embarrassing idiot who is nuts. You may not love Reid but he is an intelligent and mature option. Angle can only bring shame.  
Wait, I have to go answer to the Sharia Law that exists in my neighborhood. The camel patrol is checking to see what I watch on TV. Stoning is in my future.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/152 "2010-10-15T18:53:59Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Angle is a silver lining option? …

No. Reid no longer being the majority leader is the silver lining.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/153 "2010-10-15T19:06:45Z")

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I’d rather suffer through Reid continuing to do a terrible job as majority leader than have Durbin do a great job as minority leader though.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/154 "2010-10-15T19:18:28Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> > [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > What are the people of Nevada like, really, that this woman is even a serious candidate?
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> Eh, you could nominate a dead monkey and enough people would vote party line to make it a competitive race. The actual candidates are almost irrelevant - people are so entrenched into their tribal partisan party battles that they’ll vote party line no matter what. There’s probably no one the Republicans could nominate that would get any less than 40% of the vote.

I bet Alvin Greene doesn’t get 40% of the vote.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/155 "2010-10-16T00:22:00Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> > [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > What are the people of Nevada like, really, that this woman is even a serious candidate?
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> Eh, you could nominate a dead monkey and enough people would vote party line to make it a competitive race. The actual candidates are almost irrelevant - people are so entrenched into their tribal partisan party battles that they’ll vote party line no matter what. There’s probably no one the Republicans could nominate that would get any less than 40% of the vote.

Nevertheless, we are talking about Sharron Angle, who has said [these things](http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm) on the public record. In a sane state, Reid would beat her in November after showing up for the debate falling-down drunk with blood on his shirt and semen on his lips.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/156 "2010-10-16T00:33:07Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I’d rather suffer through Reid continuing to do a terrible job as majority leader than have Durbin do a great job as minority leader though.

In the best of all possible worlds, Schumer or Durbin will be the majority leader. I think either one of them would do better with 52 seats than Reid with 59. For Democrats to gain our goals requires a Senate leader who can twist arms, take names, and kick ass, and that is not Reid.

(In the best of the best of all possible worlds, Reid will win too, but will lose in the leadership vote.)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/157 "2010-10-16T00:34:19Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I bet Alvin Greene doesn’t get 40% of the vote.

The last poll I saw showed him at 11%.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/158 "2010-10-16T01:03:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Nevertheless, we are talking about Sharron Angle, who has said [these things](http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm) on the public record. In a sane state, Reid would beat her in November after showing up for the debate falling-down drunk with blood on his shirt and semen on his lips.

How often does a state vary more than, say, 7% along democrat/republican lines compared to its average? You say “sane state” but I suspect the only states in which Reid’s seat would be secure would be states where it isn’t ever close anyway.

I’m not trying to defend Angle of course, I’m just saying people are retardedly partisan and it barely matters who the actual candidate is.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/159 "2010-10-16T01:21:59Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> > [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > Nevertheless, we are talking about Sharron Angle, who has said [these things](http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/republicanquotes/a/Sharron-Angle-Quotes.htm) on the public record. In a sane state, Reid would beat her in November after showing up for the debate falling-down drunk with blood on his shirt and semen on his lips.
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> How often does a state vary more than, say, 7% along democrat/republican lines compared to its average? You say “sane state” but I suspect the only states in which Reid’s seat would be secure would be states where it isn’t ever close anyway.
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> I’m not trying to defend Angle of course, I’m just saying people are retardedly partisan and it barely matters who the actual candidate is.

I wish I could argue with that. She is a nutcase and will get more than 40 percent of the vote. How is that possible? Nevadans have to be smarter than that. Don’t they have a sense of embarrassment?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nevada-senate-2010-reid-vs-angle/548515/160 "2010-10-16T01:28:21Z")

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I don’t think Nevadans are unique in regard to their partisanship.

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