# never been to the us, now going to live in detroit for three months

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 9, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612 "2007-09-09T22:08:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612/121 "2007-09-15T22:40:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]  
Don’t forget watching the Lions play. Big time on Thanksgiving.  
[/QUOTE]  
Green Bay versus Detroit. It may be a NFC North game but I’ll bet it’ll be a bad one. Heck, looks like there are no good games on Thanksgiving this year.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612/122 "2007-09-16T00:06:53Z")

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The way Green Bay’s defense is looking and Detroit’s offense is running, it could be a very underrated game, especially looking at the schedule now, instead o fthen when it fleshes out.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612/123 "2007-09-16T01:55:46Z")

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fetus writes:

\> Many strange genres and permutations of popular American music originated in  
\> Detroit, which is responsible for AC/DC, the White Stripes and Insane Clown  
\> Posse, among others.

I find it bizarre that you would list musical genres that originated in Detroit without mentioning the Motown Sound.

\> I lived in Washington, DC, which has a higher crime rate than Detroit . . .

No, it doesn’t.

> **[List of United States cities by crime rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate)**
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> The following table of United States cities by crime rate is based on Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) statistics from 2019 for the 100 most populous cities in America that have reported data to the FBI UCR system.
> The population numbers are based on U.S. Census estimates for the year end. The number of murders includes nonnegligent manslaughter. This list is based on the reporting. In most cases, the city and the reporting agency are identical. However, in some cas...

Detroit has the second highest crime rate, while D.C. has the fourth highest. In any case, the overall crime rate has surprisingly little to do with how tourist-friendly the city is. The sections of D.C. that draw tourists have little crime. There is a lot of downtown Baltimore (the city that’s highest for crime) that well worth walking around for a tourist and has little crime.

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**Author:** ![beanpod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@beanpod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beanpod)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612/124 "2007-09-16T02:44:04Z")

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I don’t know how much you know about American Thanksgivings, but since you’re going to be around for the phenomenon, I’ll just give you more information that other people have touched on:

It’s always the last Thursday in November, (so we can always have a 4 day weekend to recuperate from all the turkey and carbs, you see) and is generally a family-centered holiday. It definitely depends from family to family, but it’s traditional for the whole extended family to visit one person’s home, often driving all day or flying and staying overnight. (usually at “Grandma’s house”)

Starting ridiculously early (my grandmother puts the turkey in the oven at 3:00 am, despite our efforts to head her off and stop her from straining herself) and extending into the early afternoon, massive amounts of foods like turkey, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, macaroni and cheese, homemade bread, pumpkin pie, apple pie, and of course, stuffing (which is made of bread, chicken or turkey broth, onions, sage, pepper, salt, and other spices, and may be stuffed into the turkey or may be baked in a dish on its own, then it’s called “dressing,” in my family) are prepared. Typically, women huddle in the kitchen and gossip and nibble, men flee and watch football or one of the inevitable parades on TV, kids run around and get in the way, and everyone avoids cleaning up afterwards.

I mention all these details so you’ll have an idea of what we think about when we say “Thanksgiving.” Also, at least among my friends and family, it’s typical to bring in various stragglers who don’t have anywhere else to be–a college roommate who is far from home, a close colleague, or a visitor like you, for example. Also, it’s kind of hard to get out of an invitation to Thanksgiving dinner if you don’t have somewhere else to be, because some people take it as their personal mission to ensure no one eats alone on Thanksgiving. Even if that person _wants_ to eat alone on Thanksgiving. Very few people I know don’t celebrate it at all, but I’m sure some don’t. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if your hosts invite you along to their family’s gathering. But, if you go, be prepared for lots of loud people, weird drunken uncles, crying babies, old ladies questioning you, and more food than you’ve ever seen in your life.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612/125 "2007-09-16T14:28:31Z")

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Good description.

Of course, I was figuring on waiting to find out if his host family is already planning a traditional T-day and invite before dragging him along to my family’s gathering. 😃

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-been-to-the-us-now-going-to-live-in-detroit-for-three-months/418612/126 "2007-09-16T21:16:01Z")

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I haven’t been to Detroit but from what I’ve seen it features the weather of Chicago and the public transit of Los Angeles. It doesn’t seem like a good place to be without a car.

Detroiters, I don’t mean to knock your town. I’m from L.A. and I would say the same thing here. Just not a good place to be without a car.

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