# Never Forget 9/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580 "2013-09-11T16:51:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/141 "2013-11-09T22:26:21Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > So, today is the 75th anniversary of the [Kristallnacht](http://www.npr.org/2013/11/09/241903489/bearing-witness-to-nazis-life-shattering-kristallnacht) in Germany. Got some hilarious remarks for that one too, shit for brains? Sure, if you insist : no wonder they lost the war after “The Night of Crystal” - everybody knows breaking mirrors is awful luck. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/142 "2013-11-09T22:35:08Z")
> [@YogieBear](#): > > The number of fake pseudo-Scots who claim glory from the Scottish Wars of Independence, but whose forebearers were either not there or fought on the side of the English always amazes me. They’re probably real pseudo Scots. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/143 "2013-11-11T00:05:55Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No, he’s pretty much always been like that. Every couple of months **Miller** tries to bait me into posting something that will allow him to ban me. I applaud your consistency, sir, but must respectfully decline [to take the bait](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/144 "2013-11-11T07:25:09Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > At any rate, you’ve made the hilarity value of 9/11 to you quite obvious. > > Thank you. > > Everyone who reads the SDMB knows where you stand on this. > > Dickwad. That I’m willing to make jokes about Osama bin Laden? Sure, fuck him, he’s an asshole. That I’m willing to make jokes about people who wallow in sanctimonious displays of grief and remembrance? Yup, that’s me also. Would I make a joke about the Holocaust? Yeah, probably, if it was funny. Hello, my name is Little Nemo and I’ll be your dickwad. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/145 "2013-11-11T17:52:24Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Every couple of months **Miller** tries to bait me into posting something that will allow him to ban me. You vastly overestimate the amount of head space I dedicate to you. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/146 "2013-11-11T18:04:55Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Every couple of months **Miller** tries to bait me into posting something that will allow him to ban me. Why on earth would he care if you’re banned? Are you really all that around here? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/147 "2013-11-11T18:32:57Z")
I’m a New Yorker, was here on 9/11, and had whole branches of my family wiped out during the Holocaust. **Little Nemo’s** joke was pretty funny. But I’m going to be my own dickwad, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![buddy431](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@buddy431](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddy431)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/148 "2013-11-11T20:48:43Z")
> [@sailor](#): > > Germany and Japan attacked the United States some years ago. Do you still hate those countries? The damage they did to America was infinitely greater than what was done in 9/11. Do you still hate them? If not why not? To be fair, I do know one gentleman who was a prisoner of war in Japan and still hates the Japanese, refuses to buy Japanese products, etc. But I he went through things much worse than most Americans did with either WWII or with the World Trade Center attacks. And I am very glad that he is in a very small minority: that sort of mindset is not healthy, though I very much understand why he holds it. But to me, the current mindset to the attacks seems… silly. Was I shocked and horrified by the attacks? Yes. Do I mourn for the people who died? Of course. Do I honor those who risked and gave their lives to help? Absolutely. Do I want the people responsible brought to justice? Yep. And they have, for the most part, though not in the way I would have preferred. Do the attacks make me more proud of my country? Uh, no, not really. Why are the two in any way related? Do I feel like this tragedy is any worse than those who die in other crimes, less publicized but just as deadly? No, not really. The woman in my hometown recently killed by her boyfriend is just as dead as someone killed in the attacks. Does “terrorism” justify spending more money to prevent it than other, less exotic forms of death? Not in my opinion, certainly not at the ratios we’ve been seeing. I’m not saying that there’s no place for emotion in life, that every act should be coldly determined by a risk-benefit analysis to the nearest dollar. But the response of most U.S. citizens to “terrorism” has been far outside the risk it actually poses. Which is, I repeat, silly. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/149 "2013-11-11T21:06:47Z")
I’m all about remembering 9/11, and this year I rewatched the live footage and listened to phone calls and all that stuff. I think it’s an important part of history that I personally don’t want to forget, and I was in high school when it happened so I had forgotten a lot and missed a lot. That being said, Little Nemo’s joke was successful on so many levels, that anyone offended by it is a fucking sourpuss. Too many people HAVE forgotten that Osama Bin Laden was the reason for 9/11, focusing wayyyyyy too much on terrorism in general and even worst, extrapolating it to extreme patriotism and hatred of Islam. It was also an extremely good joke because it made fun of the insufferable “Jesus is the reason for the season” meme which is terrible to the many atheists like myself who love Christmas as the secular holiday that it has become and pretty much always has been until the relatively recent attempt to “reclaim” it for Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/150 "2013-11-11T22:49:02Z")
If people want to remember 9/11/2001 every year when 9/11 rolls around, that’s fine with me. Just don’t expect everybody to join in anymore. Osama’s been swimming with the fishes for a few years now, so the point of remembrance is somewhat less than if there were still a score to be settled. But a couple of stupidities that must be addressed: 1. Calling it “Patriot Day.” Is it patriotic that a bunch of Americans got killed? The last time something of this sort happened, at least the President at the time had a brain, and called it “a day that will live in infamy.” 2. “Remember 9/11.” There’s one every year, dudes. I’m especially amused when people say that _on 9/11_. Remember 9/11? OK, but I can’t remember it all just yet; the rest of 9/11 hasn’t happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/151 "2013-11-11T23:14:12Z")
> [@Tequila\_Party](#): > > Why on earth would he care if you’re banned? Are you really all that around here? Nope. > [@Miller](#): > > You vastly overestimate the amount of head space I dedicate to you. Good. Then cut it out. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/152 "2013-11-11T23:40:36Z")
As soon as you stop acting like a hysterical moron. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/153 "2013-11-11T23:42:22Z")
You win. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580/154 "2013-11-12T03:56:24Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Sounds like PTSD, ' **Toon**. Maybe you should talk to somebody about how and why you are still so quick to abusive anger about this event. It was a horrible thing that you saw and experienced, but it was twelve years ago. I’m not saying, “Get over it,” but a little perspective wouldn’t hurt. I was about to say something like this, but I reread the thread and saw you’d put it better. I do hope you have someone to talk to about these things, **Cartooniverse**. Anger can corrode all your relationships – learn how to forgive, or at least how to cope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/never-forget-9-11/668580.md?page=7)