They’re (who ever ‘they’ is this time) shooting up my city right now. But fuck them (whoever they are), don’t let them dictate how you live your life.
I am ashamed of my country for how we acted, and how we have been systematically stripping every liberty since then while closing a blind eye and expecting us to just accept it. We caused those terrorists to hate us, and then we went in and spent millions of dollars creating an entire new crop of children who hate us even more, many more orphans, and widows, people who never even thought about bombing the US but probably are thinking about it now. And in 20 years when those kids grow up and try the same we’ll put the same innocent look our faces and say “They bombed us! Let’s get our righteous rage on!”
It’s disgusting. And because of that I and other people of my color have been assumed to be Arab, terrorists, Muslim and what else. Because we all collectively lost our shit.
And now we have no money because of all of these wars that accomplished precisely jackshit, and we are thinking about getting into another war, one that I couldn’t even name the good guys or the bad guys if I tried, and meanwhile there is so much to be done at home.
You can’t let go of your anger for all of these years and we’re the drama queens? I for one would like to move past 9/11. If you want the terrorism to stop, bombing them back to the Stone Age is not going to work. The only thing that is going to work is to educate the women, so they will educate their sons, and the next generation will be better. Instead everything we have done has effectively put the Muslim women back into the home and taken away what little opportunity they had.
Amen.
Well, somebody blew a big hole in the middle of my city, that’s for sure. And then he went and shot at my son’s friends. All in all it felt kind of personal.
But I’m not feeling angry, or vengeful, or full of hatred. Instead I feel that it is my job, and the job of everyone who cares about this country or even just cares about democracy, to guard the principles that asshole attacked. One of the most important is the rule of law.
If we let his actions change us, then even from prison, he wins. Let him lose. Let every institution he wanted to tear down stand, as strong as or stronger than before. And let him be forgotten.
Has anyone forgotten? Just thought I would check.
I laughed. Then I momentarily felt bad about laughing. I’m over it now.
[sheepishly raises hand]
I’m in England, so I’m remembering 9/11 tomorrow.
Except, 9-1-1 is the emergency phone number in .us, in Ukistan, do you not use 9-9-9 for that?
Amusingly enough, the influence of US TV shows & Hollywood is such that in many places, enough people believe 911 to be the emergency number that local governments had to activate it and redirected it towards the “normal” emergency call center, or in some places the local police switchboard.
Just checked on my own phone and sure enough, even though I live in France where the real emergency numbers are 15, 17 and 18 (for EMTs, cops and firefighters respectively) dialing 911 was about to call in an emergency. I just hope I shut it down quickly enough, before any call got through :o.
LOL. Nice one. 
I just hope people don’t forget Osama bin Laden when they’re remembering 9/11. After all, he’s the reason for the season.
That’s why terrorists had to attack your country on July 7. Otherwise it would have confused all us Americans.
Dickwad.
So, today is the 75th anniversary of the Kristallnacht in Germany. Got some hilarious remarks for that one too, shit for brains?
My father, age 9, was on a ship a day out from Riverhead, Long Island on the way up the NY Harbor to Ellis Island the night Kristallnacht occurred. The next morning the Captain was wired, informing him to turn the boat around and return to Lisbon so all Jews could be removed and returned to Germany.
Using the professionally acceptible parlance of the day, apparently the Captain of this vessel told the Europeans to go fuck themselves and continued on to New York.
Thus do I exist as do many others.
However, don’t let a little thing like a Holocaust get in the way of snarky ironically detached humor. If 9/11 cracks you up, well fuckin-A, the Holocaust must give you muscle cramps from laughter.
Then again, who knows? Maybe there’s some numerical threshold that wasn’t crossed by having almost 3,000 people murdered that keeps 9/11 as delightfully acceptable fodder for humor but 8 million + people killed, ahh… that’s sobering and totally different. Maybe? Who knows.
At any rate, you’ve made the hilarity value of 9/11 to you quite obvious.
Thank you.
Everyone who reads the SDMB knows where you stand on this.
Dickwad.
Sounds like PTSD, 'Toon. Maybe you should talk to somebody about how and why you are still so quick to abusive anger about this event. It was a horrible thing that you saw and experienced, but it was twelve years ago. I’m not saying, “Get over it,” but a little perspective wouldn’t hurt.
<------- laughing. Yes, yes, of course you must be correct.
Anyone not doubled over with gales of laughter over the kicking of the corpses must have something wrong with them. Off I should scamper to see a counselor who will correct me so I can laugh at 9/11 just like all the other kids.
Perhaps I’m not the one with the dysfunction here.
Perhaps part of your anger stems from the fact that the US lost the “war on terror” the very moment it was declared?
Who is kicking corpses? Who is laughing at 9/11? There may be some graveyard whistling, but everybody here respects the dead and mourns that day. And most of us mourn most of the actions the US took as a response because they were wrong, killed and injured millions, and handed Bin Laden a victory far beyond what he hoped for.
You are paramedic and helped out at Ground Zero in the immediate aftermath. We honor you for that. But I grew up with guys with PTSD and your inability to look beyond that day, the way you take any comment you don’t consider sufficiently respectful personally and snap at the people who say it, looks to me like a symptom. Before 9/11 I remember you as a cheerful poster, but since then you have been bitter and constantly on edge when you are here. Just something you might want to look into, since I am not a psychologist.
Life is still a precious gift, and this world is still in many ways a beautiful place. For some people, tradgedy makes those truths more poignant, while for others it obliterates them. I know I fall into the former camp, but I can’t say why. So I don’t pass judgement on those in the latter.
No, he’s pretty much always been like that.