# New 3rd party kicks off - Forward Party
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [July 28, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684 "2022-07-28T03:10:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/101 "2022-08-02T23:25:29Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Why would this demographic leave the party that has delivered for a fledgling centralist party that all but certainly can’t?
“I don’t like Trump’s insane levels of corruption”
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/102 "2022-08-02T23:29:51Z")
“I prefer traditional, insane, levels of Republican corruption”
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### Author:  [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/103 "2022-08-02T23:33:38Z")
With an extra large side order of racist totalitarianism please!!!
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### Author:  [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/104 "2022-08-02T23:46:13Z")
> [@Velocity](#):
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> Other parties like Libertarian are too stale.
If by stale you mean, has been around long enough that they have taken a stand on the issues, then yes. The main advantage that the Forward party has is that at this point it is an utterly blank slate onto which any disenchanted voter can write their hopes their dreams under the assumption that their views represent those of the silent majority of Americans and so will be the party platform.
In reality what they will most likely find is that now instead of two parties who fail to represent their views, there are now three parties that fail to represent their views.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/105 "2022-08-02T23:50:44Z")
What’s the point? Why do you plan to support a party with no positions so far?
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### Author:  [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/106 "2022-08-03T00:37:45Z")
Historically, third parties in the U.S. don’t attract support or get their program passed by being milquetoast centrists. Instead, they have nice simple bumper-sticker-type ideas that drag an unserved portion of the electorate along.
Republican Party, 1860: “No expansion of slavery.”
Progressive Party, 1912: “Keep business from corrupting the political system.”
Prohibition Party, 1870s-now: “Outlaw demon rum.”
These parties either gained power or got their ideas into circulation in a way that meant their political program, or part of it, succeeded. Unless the Forward Party can articulate a program - in other words, not just that that government should work better, but what should government be working better towards - they’re going to go nowhere.
And frankly, if you want the Republican Party lite without all that Trumpism, you should consider the Prohibition Party, as long as you can stomach a dash of theocracy with your social conservatism and economic liberalism.
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### Author:  [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/107 "2022-08-03T01:04:24Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> “I don’t like Trump’s insane levels of corruption”
To paraphrase LBJ “give me lower taxes and an abortion ban and you can have your dammed corruption”
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### Author:  [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/108 "2022-08-03T03:16:08Z")
> [@Velocity](#):
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> Other parties like Libertarian are too stale.
Stale or not, unlike the [Republican party](https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020), the Libertarian party has a [platform](https://www.lp.org/platform/).
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/109 "2022-08-03T14:20:37Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> To paraphrase LBJ “give me lower taxes and an abortion ban and you can have your dammed corruption”
Absolutely some folks will make that bargain. A second group won’t make that bargain, if they can cast a purity vote for things like like without getting the corruption, but they’ll make that bargain if they see it as the only alternative to voting for Democrats. A third group would prefer to vote for Democrats rather than vote for pervasive corruption, but will take the purity vote if offered.
Whether this hurts Republicans or Democrats more depends on whether the second group is larger than the third group.
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/110 "2022-08-03T18:52:02Z")
Hey, the Republicans have a platform. The Fifth amendment.
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2022, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/111 "2022-08-04T05:37:32Z")
And embracing the second, sorta like what Trump does with the US flag.
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### Author:  [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/112 "2022-08-04T12:32:01Z")
Heh. Nice!
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### Author:  [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [August 4, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/113 "2022-08-04T17:37:30Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> LBJ “give me lower taxes and an abortion ban and you can have your dammed corruption”
Thing is, most people didn’t have their taxes lowered by much. For some reason, they really do care how much the wealthy have to pay in taxes.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/114 "2022-08-09T22:32:51Z")
Thought people would enjoy seeing the latest brainstorm from one of the prime movers behind this new party so it’s clear the level of intellect we’re dealing with:
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/115 "2022-08-10T00:20:43Z")
And the question a patriotic, constitution respecting, law and order type should respond with is: So what?
(ETA: That was Andrew Yang? Didn’t he run as a Democrat? Jesus fucking christ.)
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/116 "2022-08-10T00:47:55Z")
Fuck Yang. He could have been a rising leader as a Democrat. Instead he’d rather be an egomaniac fucktard on his own.
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### Author:  [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/117 "2022-08-10T01:04:45Z")
Don’t blame me, I voted for Yin.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/118 "2022-08-15T07:18:05Z")
Yang is interviewed by Jim Acosta and can’t answer the simplest questions about policy stances for his vapid and pointless new party. What a fucking egotistical asshole.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/119 "2022-08-16T19:51:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Yang is interviewed by Jim Acosta and can’t answer the simplest questions about policy stances for his vapid and pointless new party. What a fucking egotistical asshole.
I think this new party should be named “The Andrew Yang Does Not Want Trump to Reveal Compromising Information About Andrew Yang Party”
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### Author:  [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-3rd-party-kicks-off-forward-party/968684/120 "2022-08-16T19:57:06Z")
I predict this thread about this Forward Party will have more traction than the party itself.
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