# New allegation:  Trump tried to use NSA, DNI to reign in FBI investigation

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 23, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278 "2017-05-23T14:24:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278/81 "2017-05-24T21:08:38Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> There isn’t going to be a public report like this for what should be obvious reasons.

Well, it is for an obvious reason, but not for the reason that you imply.

Intelligence agencies do not formulate or recommend policies. Period. The CIA doesn’t come up with recommendations for how to deal with Russian hacking. It has nothing to do with classification, it has to do with the responsibilities of intelligence agencies.

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> Remember that Obama already responded to the hacking:

As I’ve already stated. You think that’s going to stop Russia from doing this again? Ha.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278/82 "2017-05-24T23:36:13Z")

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> [@Silver\_lining](#):
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> The Democrats are using the press to take politics to a new low, using suggesting news titles with next to no proof in the context.
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> They are buying out our politicians! Clinton herself took millions from Iran and others. The quid pro quo list here is longer than Trump’s by a country mile.

This is a complete red herring - but please provide the cite that shows Hillary and/or her campaign took money from the Government of Iran.

And after you’ve done that, please show what Hillary’s proposed policies were apparently implicated in any quid pro quo resulting from such a donation.

Good luck, Trump’s deflection squad is counting on you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278/83 "2017-05-24T23:48:16Z")

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He just told you the documentation is at least a mile long! Why would you put our hamsters through such a marathon of pain!

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278/84 "2017-05-24T23:56:36Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Please point me to the report that has recommendations for how the U.S. Government should respond to the Russian meddling. Linky, please.

[This](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/29/us/politics/document-Report-on-Russian-Hacking.html) might be the report that **treis** is referring to, which offers a very barebones description of what methods the hackers are thought to have used to breach the DNC network systems and some “mitigation strategies” for trying to prevent future similar breaches or mitigate their damage. It is far from comprehensive, though, in that it is not the actual criminal investigation report, does not detail or provide timelines of what happened, what was breached, and what information was accessed/downloaded, does not reveal the telltale signs that pointed to Russian involvement, and does not indicate what actions should be taken in response as retaliation.

As you suggest, no investigator who is charged with determining the facts and the who/what/where/why/how of events is going to recommend geo-political policies or actions to take in response, other than purely technical defensive or educational measures as those suggested in the linked report.

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> People have already gotten to the bottom in a comprehensive way and we’ve seen that report.

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> There isn’t going to be a public report like this for what should be obvious reasons.

So, if the above linked report is not what you are talking about, is the report you are referring to public or not? If it is not, then your first statement is false and you have no way of knowing whether “people have already gotten to the bottom in a comprehensive way.”

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278/85 "2017-05-25T02:06:45Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> History has shown us that this isn’t always the best idea. Clinton didn’t squelch the Whitewater investigation, despite there being nothing there, and it ended up crippling his presidency.

History shows again and again how Billy tugs out the folly of man.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-allegation-trump-tried-to-use-nsa-dni-to-reign-in-fbi-investigation/787278/86 "2017-05-25T03:39:10Z")

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You might say he is a seminal influence.

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