# New and Unimproved Workplace Rants **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638 "2015-10-14T15:44:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2702 "2021-04-14T20:54:34Z")
> [@MagicEyes](#): > > I hate work Zoom parties. šŸ„ŗ Iā€™d rather watch Dr. Phil. We always do a scavenger hunt, which is not fun, because one of my coworkers practices for these scavenger hunts, and she must have a pile of everything next to her desk, because she usually pops up with the thing immediately. Thatā€™s just not fun. Please tell me you made this up. If this is mandatory, you should think about running over your boss in the parking lot. Or, when itā€™s your turn, choose a vibrating butt plug. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2703 "2021-04-14T21:27:45Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Or, when itā€™s your turn, choose a vibrating butt plug. A _bluetooth_ vibrating plug ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2704 "2021-04-15T02:49:52Z")
Weā€™ve done the scavenger hunt more than once. Now weā€™re doing mad libs. šŸ™„ I donā€™t get to choose the scavenger hunt items, but that would be fun. Funny story about running over your boss. I was driving down the street one day, and I saw my horrible (now ex) boss stepping into the crosswalk just as my light turned green. So I almost had the opportunity to run over my boss. She did stop, so that was good, because if I had run over her, it would have made work very awkward. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2705 "2021-04-15T11:30:33Z")
> [@MagicEyes](#): > > it would have made work very awkward. Awkward or awesome? ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2706 "2021-04-15T19:38:56Z")
šŸ™‚ It would have gotten her out of the office for a while, but it would have made my life more difficult in other ways. ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2707 "2021-04-15T19:42:59Z")
Another day, another InDesign problems. I have numbered lists that are behaving badly. InDesign is great when it works, but when it doesnā€™t work itā€™s like a technology horror movie. It is possessed by demons. šŸ˜ˆ ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2708 "2021-04-15T20:20:07Z")
Of course it is - the clue is in the ā€œAdobeā€ part. Commiserations. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2709 "2021-04-15T21:13:44Z")
> [@MagicEyes](#): > > I have numbered lists that are behaving badly. Pagemaker/Quark/InDesign guy hereā€¦ Iā€™ve always done numbered lists manually. I mean, literally, starting with: 1. [tab] First Thing 2. [tab] Not First Thing 3. [tab] Opelā€™s Thing You can still set your tabs to line up your items OR you can tab so that the periods line up. Of course, when Mickie McClient adds a #6 1/2 to the middle of your list, youā€™ll be renumbering manually, but thatā€™s only happened twice in thirty years to me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2710 "2021-04-16T00:43:21Z")
I had to give my two-week notice today. But if any details are seen here by the principals in meatspaceā€¦you know the drill. Accepting PMs from sympathetic parties. ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2711 "2021-04-16T02:36:12Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Pagemaker/Quark/InDesign guy hereā€¦ Iā€™ve always done numbered lists manually. I mean, literally, starting with: > > 1. [tab] First Thing > 2. [tab] Not First Thing > 3. [tab] Opelā€™s Thing Unfortunately, itā€™s a lot more complicated than that. I have a 70+ page document, and most of the document is multi-level numbered lists. I canā€™t do that manually. The numbering isnā€™t working correctly in one place, and when I try to change it, somehow it screws up the numbering in a different list. It just gets worse from there, but I wonā€™t bore you with all of the details. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2712 "2021-04-16T09:17:10Z")
Commiserations, and would be good to hear about it when you are free to give more details. > [@MagicEyes](#): > > The numbering isnā€™t working correctly in one place, and when I try to change it, somehow it screws up the numbering in a different list. ā€œIt was as if he was trying to write a perfect detective story and suddenly noticed that the second chapter was about irrigation projects in Ethiopia. If he scratched that, all the women in the story would be called Rodrigo, and if he gave them their own names back, then the corpse would be alive on the odd pages.ā€ - credit to Tim Krabbe, writing about trying to create a chess problem. I think itā€™s a brilliant piece of writing, that seems apt here. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2713 "2021-04-16T12:21:57Z")
Have you tried posting the issue to the Adobe [InDesign](https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/bd-p/indesign) community? Lots of helpful people there, and often theyā€™re willing to take a look at the document itself to see if they can fix it. ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2714 "2021-04-18T21:13:44Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Commiserations, and would be good to hear about it when you are free to give more details. Iā€™m not sure if I can make this short, but here goes: I have a 70+ page document that is almost all complex multi-level numbered lists. The top two levels shouldnā€™t be auto-numbered, because they will never change. One of the numbers in the second heading level isnā€™t correct, and I canā€™t find any reason why. Itā€™s formatted exactly the same as the other second headings, and theyā€™re all fine. If I remove the heading style, that heading will be left out when I use that style to create the table of contents. If I try to make any changes to that heading or to the heading style, it screws up the next level of the list through the whole document. I have posted this to the Adobe forums, and someone with more expertise has contacted me, so maybe thereā€™s hope. šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2715 "2021-04-19T11:15:04Z")
There is always hope. And thank you for your response, although honesty compels me to point out that my comment was originally directed at John DiFoolā€™s post - I should have made that clearer by multi-quoting it, sorry. Commiserations to you too, all the same! ---
**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2716 "2021-04-20T19:23:05Z")
Went out to a dam today to work on an instrument I manage (it measures things like temperature and pH). Well it was gone, along with a chunk of the dam and some railing. The Lockmaster said ā€œOh, yeah. A barge hit there during the last high water. Happens all the time.ā€ If you looked at the dam and instrument location you would probably wonder how a barge managed to hit it at all, as it was fairly well protected behind a large concrete wall. Itā€™s amazing to me that the barge didnā€™t get into the actual dam structure (which actually does happen on occasion). Oh well, itā€™s not my $10,000. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2717 "2021-04-21T19:17:15Z")
A few weeks ago I posted about applying for a new position. Today, I was offered the jobā€¦ and I declined it. I may regret it, and thatā€™s okay. Management decided to add new tasks to the position I was not comfortable with. When I expressed something that we see everyday on our end that isnā€™t really okay, the manager said it wasnā€™t happening. The training turned out to be much briefer than what I believe is needed _and_ when the person currently in the job leaves, the supervisor will be leaving for 6 weeks. IOW, no support for a position that I am familiar with on a very basic level. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2718 "2021-04-21T21:48:35Z")
Sounds like a bullet dodged. When/if you start feeling regrets, review your post about your reasons for turning it down. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2719 "2021-04-22T01:41:37Z")
How aggravating. I hope you document the double-requests. Might come in handy if you ever decide to make an official complaint about this. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2720 "2021-04-22T01:49:36Z")
Agreed; you dodged a Bullitt. That manager isnā€™t managing, just denying. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638/2721 "2021-04-22T14:26:17Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > There is always hope. And thank you for your response, although honesty compels me to point out that my comment was originally directed at John DiFoolā€™s post - I should have made that clearer by multi-quoting it, sorry. Commiserations to you too, all the same! Sorry, was expecting a PM, didnā€™t see your replies until just now. PM coming sometime today. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638.md?page=135) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-and-unimproved-workplace-rants/734638.md?page=137)