# New apprentice (Journeymen) mods

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [November 12, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456 "2020-11-12T19:44:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/41 "2020-11-15T07:38:56Z")

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Well that’s a bummer. Maybe the mods will be nice and let you have a name change.

Look at this sloth. 🦥

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/42 "2020-11-15T15:35:12Z")

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> [@Enjoy\_Slurm](#):
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> Look at this sloth. 🦥

Funniest joke the Muppets ever did:

The Seven Deadly Sins show; big extravaganza featuring sketches involving six of the seven (they couldn’t find one of them). Show wraps up, credits finished, music done, there’s a knock on the door: **Hi, I’m Sloth, am I late?**

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/43 "2020-11-15T17:19:36Z")

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Yeah, I was thinking of changing it, but perhaps it’s more interesting this way.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/44 "2020-12-25T21:45:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Another thing ruined by a certain person: I can’t read the word Apprentice with a capital A without thinking about the TV show.

Gaach. This is so disgusting that I just changed it. I never once saw the show so it never impinged on my consciousness. In fact, I would not have even understood the reference had not certain events occurred.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/45 "2020-12-26T00:58:58Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I just changed it

Ugh. I changed mine, too.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/46 "2020-12-26T05:48:14Z")

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I think after four months on the job you guys are entitled to change it to Journeyman (er…Journeyperson?) Mod.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/48 "2020-12-26T13:29:08Z")

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I wrote on my tax returns that my job was “journeyman actuary” one year. Now that I’m a master actuary, i just write “actuary”, though.

ETA: okay, I’m trying it on. Let me know if it makes my ass look fat.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/49 "2020-12-26T13:47:08Z")

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@Hari_Seldon@raventhief, @puzzlegal:

If it makes you feel any better, I was actually only talking about the title of this thread. My eye glosses those gray subtitles, so they never invoked the same feeling.

But I’m all for you changing it. As @Colibri says, y’all deserve it.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/50 "2020-12-26T17:32:56Z")

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Thread Title updated and mod title too.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/51 "2020-12-26T17:40:15Z")

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Journeyfolk or journeyperson, please. Let’s not lose ground here.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/52 "2020-12-26T19:03:23Z")

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Good call, but in reality what training are they receiving? I can’t tell who’s an apprentice, journeythey or master.

I think the term facilitator instead of moderator is a better description of the role of our jack booted hosts.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/53 "2020-12-26T19:27:36Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> journeythey

Journeythey works too.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/54 "2020-12-27T22:33:02Z")

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Meaning no offense, but “journeyman” is already a somewhat obscure word, and I don’t want to muddy the waters by modifying it to a novel title. And hey, I’m used to it. My professional title is “Fellow of the Casualty Actuarial Society”. I’m quite proud of that title – lots of work to earn it.

Yes, I’m a woman. But I embrace both “journeyman” and “fellow” as mine. 😉

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/55 "2020-12-28T14:57:46Z")

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Well, that’s weird. Your title is truncated on your post a ways up but not on this one. And the truncated version is replacing “…” for “mod”.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/56 "2020-12-28T15:38:16Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> My professional title is “Fellow of the Casualty Actuarial Society”.

Interesting. I’m an FSA myself, but I’ve always felt there should be an added-level title called JGFSA, standing for Jolly Good Fellow of the Society of Actuaries. However, so far that title has failed to catch on …

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/57 "2020-12-28T19:07:32Z")

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That’s because so few would qualify that it’s not worth it. 😉

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/58 "2020-12-28T20:29:57Z")

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I’m following your lead on this one. If you change to something less gender specific, I’ll do the same. If you’re keeping journeyman, I will do so.

The gender neutral version of journeyman is problematically long: “experienced tradesperson”. It also doesn’t convey the humor of Apprentice to Journeyman promotion.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/59 "2020-12-28T22:26:58Z")

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According to this, Journeyman is gender neutral:  
[https://kickasscareers.org/about/](https://kickasscareers.org/about/)

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/60 "2020-12-28T23:18:37Z")

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I went with journeymod.

(Just because I found it amusing)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-journeymen-mods/925456/61 "2020-12-29T03:41:13Z")

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You know, that’s cute. I’ll do it, too.

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